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I am stuck in a stump as Seth Curry was announced by the NBA eariler around 10:05 PM EST that he has resigned with the Hornets but when I go on the 2024-25 Hornets season, I see that he is on the Subtractions sub-category of the Free agency category as the Hornets did waived Seth Curry around late-June 2024 but since he has officially resigned with the Hornets, I'm not sure what to do. ReallyAmazingDude13 (talk) 02:22, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page watcher) @ReallyAmazingDude13: What I've often seen sports editors do when updating roster templates and charts like this is to simply remove the newly-erroneous entry while attaching the transaction source in the edit summary to justify and explain the removal. It's a normal editing situation during sports off-seasons governed by WP:COMMONSENSE rather than any codified policy. Left guide (talk) 03:35, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Left guide I'm confused by what you mean ReallyAmazingDude13 (talk) 19:15, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What are your suggestions in dealing with stuff like this? I have previously reported this editor for personal attacks at ANI, but no measures were taken by administrators. This editor was also discussed at another editor's talk page, and has then continued its crap at Talk:Braden Holtby#Former goaltender status and has also made accusations on its own talk page towards me. I am at loss and cannot decide where to report this editor. In addition, I wrote directly to you, because most of other senior administrators seem to have almost stopped making regular edits. – sbaio 15:45, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Sbaio: Hi there. I'm not familiar with the interactions between you two. I'll list a few options, which you can decide if they are applicable or not to your situation:

• I assume you're already tried to resolve this WP:CONDUCTDISPUTE 1-on-1 with them?
• From WP:PA: Accusations about personal behavior that lack evidence. Serious accusations require serious evidence, usually in the form of diffs and links. If they have a serious concern, they should be able to provide diff.
• If they don't take action on your alleged behavior (e.g. noticeboard), and are unwilling to AGF and move on, those side remarks appear unproductive. If you can show it's persistent, perhaps the community would agree to an WP:IBAN.
• For content disputes, I'd involve the related WikiProject to get more opinions if 1-on-1 discussions go in circles.

Good luck.—Bagumba (talk) 21:40, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for suggestions. Editor's last message on its own talk page means that probably none of the suggested steps will be needed for some time (but I do not believe it). In addition, the editor copied a bunch of messages from my talk page history without even knowing the context of those disputes so it naturally raises questions of WP:NOTHERE and WP:CIR. A question – are other editors allowed to copy content from my talk page or its history? I was sure that WP:TPG or WP:OWNTALK had something about it, but I could not find anything. – sbaio 07:38, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Sbaio: Re: copying talk page content, one constructive reason might be as part of dispute resolution. If you feel it's being done unconstructively, it should be handled as a conduct dispute, with diffs provided, as needed. Regards.—Bagumba (talk) 14:14, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hey. How would you apply the lead discussion to Ben Graham (footballer)? Do you think it needs to be amended? DaHuzyBru (talk) 09:22, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Is this too much? an Australian former professional Australian rules football and American football player DaHuzyBru (talk) 09:23, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@DaHuzyBru: The general applicable guideline is MOS:NATIONALITY, in which a person's nationality is generally in the lead. We shouldn't assume that readers know anything about the sport or the backgrounds of its players. That linked discussion dealt with American football and MOS:TIES, where football in American English refers to American football. However, football in Australia seems to be a toss-up between Australian rules and soccer (Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (sportspeople) § Disambiguating with (football) for football players}, so the full Australian rules football seem necessary, as in your example. At Wikipedia talk:WikiProject National Football League/Archive 12 § define "football" and nationality, someone suggested using something like an Australian former professional player of Australian rules football and American football, which I personally think flows slightly better. —Bagumba (talk) 14:52, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I don't mind that suggestion, however I see it has been changed from that before [1]. Having "Australian" in Australian rules football does make it difficult, whereby the code name hijacks the lead sentence. Then later when they retire, it becomes "former Australian rules footballer". I know you have spent a lot of time and effort on "American former" to overcome "former American". I did start a discussion here but I think I will definitely stick to the basketball space. Too much for me! DaHuzyBru (talk) 15:28, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Bagumba, can you consider granting this user auto-confirmed rights? I reviewed and implemented a smaller set of their box office updates at Pixar that are accurate and reliably-sourced. I lack the energy and motivation to implement their full set of newer updates, but this editor seems willing, and I trust them. It would save a lot of time and work for uninvolved edit request patrollers like myself. Left guide (talk) 23:05, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Left guide: I don't have much experience with managing user rights, so I'll defer. The autoconfirmed requirements are quite low. I see there is Wikipedia:Requests for permissions/Confirmed, but it seems the actual user is expected to make the request there. It's great that you're looking for ways to make things more efficient. However, as you're a volunteer (like everyone else), it's ok if you choose to leave things on the table too. Regards. —Bagumba (talk) 00:17, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:01, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]