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Talk:Raju_Srivastav#Look_alike_of_Amitabh_Bachchan_?

Talk:Raju_Srivastav#Look_alike_of_Amitabh_Bachchan_? Several users are edit warring to put this claim and other equally outrageous and inappropriately supported claims on this article. Please check. Venkat TL (talk) 15:07, 22 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

List of mourners in Death section of popular actors

Is it ok to add List of mourners in Death section of popular actors?

Please check and respond on

Venkat TL (talk) 15:35, 22 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Reliability of 123Telugu.com - 123telugu

Some editors keep adding as a reliable source while some remove it as unreliable. From WP:ICTFFAQ, the reliability is undetermined. What kind of reliability does the website has now? I assume interviews should be okay as a primary source for the interviewee’s article. How reliable are the movie reviews, news about films, articles about people (as they fall under WP:BLP if they're alive) and so on? — DaxServer (t · m · c) 10:10, 3 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Their About Us page makes sure to tout repeatedly how trustworthy and reliable their site is, which has the opposite effect, IMO. Especially when their Disclaimer page turns around and makes sure we know all the ways that nothing posted to their site can be trusted at all. On 20 March 2022, I emailed them to ask my standard question ("What is your staff editorial structure and what are the fact-checking procedures for information posted on your site?") and never received a reply. I wouldn't trust their alleged interviews; I see no by-lines on any of them, or really anywhere on the site. Geniac (talk) 03:25, 4 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Archive links for filmcentro.com reliable?

There are five articles that use archived copies from filmcentro.com (which no longer exists). Of those, at least two articles, Allu Aravind and Gajendra Chauhan, use filmcentro to verify personal details like date and place of birth, parents, siblings, children, etc (e.g., [1] and [2]). Is filmcentro considered reliable for those personal details? – Archer1234 (talk) 15:25, 24 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I would say no. They appear to be just another nameless, faceless content scraper. The bottom of the page claims they are a "trusted source". Which immediately indicates to me that they're not. Geniac (talk) 03:57, 27 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Vijay (actor)

Hello, all. There is an ongoing discussion about the neutrality of this article. Any input from you would be appreciated. Thanks! -- Ab207 (talk) 11:52, 26 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Ab207: I've reverted the tag removal, really a chain of fans are working hard there, I think you should seek some admin help. Shahid • Talk2me 12:32, 26 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you much, Shshshsh. Will escalate if the issue persists. -- Ab207 (talk) 14:07, 26 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Zee News sources for Zee Studios films

It recently came to me that referring Zee News, and its whole branch of Zee channels, would be a conflict of interest for films which are associated with Zee Studios as they both are controlled by Essel Group. Does Zee have any editorial protocols regarding this? (At the least, IMO, it would appear that one produces and the other promotes). I would argue that we need to not use Zee citations in films by Zee Studios. — DaxServer (t · m · c) 10:42, 30 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It depends on what exactly is your concern. You can always use Zee News and allied as sources for fact checking and non-controversial stuff. You may want to take it cautiously when you are using it as source of calling a film "block-buster" or such. The problem with refraining from using COI sources will be that you may not find any at all for few topics. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 04:01, 3 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, fact checking and non-controversial is allowed. Definitely not for reviews and review of reviews and eventual summarization. If COI sources are the only ones that have sourcing [elsewhere] and no independent sources could be found, that topic perhaps need to undergo a notability evaluation — DaxServer (t · m · c) 14:50, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Akshay Kumar's citizenship

There has been a growing discussion on Akshay Kumar, where one user insists on giving Kumar's citizenship more heft and importance than, IMO, it deserves, that too in the lead. I would like to have more opinions from people who work on articles realted to Indian cinema, particularly BLPs. It's crucial to our project and to the debate of the place personal life and politics have in our articles on actors. Shahid • Talk2me 14:35, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Shshshsh Could you re-word the section title in that page? That is rather very non-neutraly. Thanks! — DaxServer (t · m · c) 14:56, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@DaxServer: I'm afraid the link for WP:NPA is not very fitting. Neutrality is another thing which I agree with. Shahid • Talk2me 14:58, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
For the record, I've changed it now. Shahid • Talk2me 15:10, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The Problem with Malayalam films' Box Office sources

Can someone do some cleanup work? There are no sources that reports reliable box office numbers of Malayalam films, yet pages such as List of Malayalam films of 2022, List of highest-grossing Malayalam films, List of highest-grossing Indian films etc. and those film articles are bloated with citations to promotional figures published by producers, which even sites like TOI reports, not to mention Twitter pages and blog sites created by fans. Another problem is circular references copying Wikipedia that Wikipedians use as reference. There is nobody to cleanup those mess, abiding WP:PRIMARYSOURCES and WP:ICTFFAQ. Previously, User:Cyphoidbomb was there, but now he is inactive. 117.230.92.55 (talk) 14:00, 23 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Beast (2022 Indian film)

@DaxServer, Ab207, and Kailash29792: Beast has collected ₹250 (US$3.00) crore against a budget of ₹150 (US$1.80) crore.[1] In Vijay, the main lead of the film it is considered as successful. But in Pooja Hegde, the female lead of film it is considered as unsuccessful. Please see this:[3], [4], [5], [6], [7], These all sources says Beast is a successful film. 103.166.245.232 (talk) 08:20, 20 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/tamil/movies/box-office/beast-box-office-collection-vijay-scores-fifth-consecutive-rs-250-crores/articleshow/91392690.cms

Saathi (1991 film)

There's an AfD Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Saathi (1991 film) which I find particularly interesting and would like more people especially from our group to offer some views on. I really wonder what people here would think and whether opinions on such AfDs for or against deletion depend strictly on how they interpret policy or based on something else. Shahid • Talk2me 11:28, 14 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

A second-time mass deletion of recorded song lists by Indian playback singers - and our Alerts do not mention it

I would like to make you all aware of the following pages, which are up for deletion, because for some reason the Alerts page wouldn't include them as it should. It so happened that I came across one of them by chance, but anyway. For your information and for those interested of course, the following lists are up for deletion (this isn't a full list of the nominated lists, which can be found on Category:AfD debates (Media and music)).

Shahid • Talk2me 12:13, 24 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This is an example of WP:SYSTEMICBIAS. I guess only adding sources can save them. Kailash29792 (talk) 12:41, 24 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The Alerts list will be updated tomorrow and will include them. These are nominated after today's run and thus are not yet available on the alerts list — DaxServer (t · m · c) 12:50, 24 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@DaxServer: No, not all of them have been nominated today, that's why I'm saying. Shahid • Talk2me 13:02, 24 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Most likely because the talk page banners don't have the ICTF specification like Talk:List of Tamil songs recorded by Vani Jairam. Perhaps botops @Hellknowz or @Headbomb can shed some light on this? — DaxServer (t · m · c) 14:10, 24 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia:WikiProject Film/Indian cinema task force subscription is reporting only pages in Category:WikiProject Indian cinema articles. (Something like Category:AfD debates (Media and music) isn't used by the bot for anything.) The articles mentioned are not tagged with any banner/workforce that would categorize it as such, so the bot doesn't report it. The bot does use pages like Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/India, so it does appear at Wikipedia:WikiProject India/Article alerts. But the bot has no way to know that this is further specific/of interest to Indian Film WP/TF. There is no reliable way for the bot to detect these other than for someone to tag the page with the correct banner. Unfortunately, this is the case for many AfDs. Delsorts largely mitigate this, but delsorts are very broad and the nominations can get lost in the noise. I am not sure that I have any better advice on this, the bot is just using what is available to it. I would suggest following Film/Cinema alerts and tagging any pages of interest so they are reposted for this project. —  HELLKNOWZ ∣ TALK 14:38, 24 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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