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Urve, I consider you to be an old Wikipedia friend of mine with whom I have had nothing but pleasant and constructive interactions. Your work on Wikipedia is valued — and I personally find your style of writing particularly dashing (if you get the reference). Although I have not been much active lately, I am always readily accessible via email, and I will always respond and love to talk to my good friends from this project — as few as they are and you definitely are one. I am writing to you because it has been a while and I wanted to say hello, and because I was somewhat worried. You can always approach me and I hope everything is okay. If it is not, there are ways to handle it and I hope you know that you are not alone. — The Most Comfortable Chair 11:32, 30 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I appreciate the reference. It's one I occasionally look back on to see that my writing matters, and that friends are near. Below, an AfC approval notice for a subject I've always found interesting. Talk soon. Urve (talk) 13:12, 30 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This might be outside the scope of your article but there is — Judge Drops Eminem Rap. — The Most Comfortable Chair 10:31, 1 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, a very interesting case! Vycl1994 also shared this in an edit summary. I intended on creating a list of examples like this and Justice Kagan's Suessian move ;). Andrew McClurg has an interesting repository of similar examples that could, with appropriate sourcing, be added. Thankfully we can quote as much as we want of the opinions themselves - like the entirety of Fisher v. Lowe - per (my sophomoric understanding of) the edict of government doctrine. An interesting project would also be Judicial humor, but that probably has a wide scope beyond the US, and I don't feel comfortable with looking for global sources on it. You'll notice that I tried - probably unsuccessfully, but I wouldn't know either way - to use Bluebook here ... all writing is an exercise in novelty. And I haven't forgotten to email you; busy, but talk soon. Urve (talk) 12:49, 1 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

successfully intimidated

Hey! Can you please explain [1] successfully intimidated? Did someone threaten you? Is everything alright? –MJL ‐Talk‐^☖ 04:20, 1 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your guess is more or less accurate. All fine, thanks. Urve (talk) 05:24, 1 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I would highly encourage you to come forward (either privately or publicly) with any information you have about this. That's really serious stuff, and who ever threatened you should be immediately sanctioned. You can do so by contacting the arbitration committee (depending on the nature and severity of the threat of course). I cannot stress this enough; you really should come forward with this. –MJL ‐Talk‐^☖ 15:38, 1 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Oof, I'm really sorry to see this. If it was someone trying to log into your account, I noticed some people on the talk page of the RFA talking about an LTA case who is targetting people replying to the RFA. -- asilvering (talk) 19:49, 1 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'm so sorry to see this. Urve, you are an amazing editor here and you are wanted. Don't let this intimidation keep you from being here and contributing to this project. People can be so cruel. Don't let them win. --ARoseWolf 12:20, 2 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Urve, you said this the first time we interacted on Wikipedia, "I have always been enamored by your idea, of listening to others and letting them impact us, unreservedly, allowing ourselves to be washed over by the music. We are as much ourselves as we are those we love." Sometimes negative things impact us too and their impact can be felt so much harder. Sometimes the music we hear is sown as discord. I remember being terrified as a child by all the experiences I had. Love is unassuming and so a lot of times its impact is less felt initially. I liken it growing a garden. Just because you plant the seed doesn't mean that fruit appears the same day. It takes time and effort. Urve, your impact has made its mark and over time it has become even more prevalent. Don't let this intimidation alter who you are here. Listen to my music. Hear my Song of love drowning out this terrible attempt to force you to change who you are and silence your voice. Wikipedia is an amazing place where so many from every corner of this planet get together and we build something so unbelievably wonderful. But it takes every note in every color to make it that. So I WILL take the time to reflect your beautiful colors back to you. --ARoseWolf 13:14, 2 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

May 2022 at Women in Red

Women in Red May 2022, Vol 8, Issue 5, Nos 214, 217, 227, 229, 230 Online events: New: Women in the Ancient World | British Overseas Territories Contest (Apr/May/Jun): Translation contest (second month) Continuing: Climate (year-long initiative) | #1day1woman See also: Wikimedia District of Columbia: 100 DC Women contest The Wikipedia Library: #1Lib1Ref Other ways to participate: Join the conversations on our talkpage. Help us plan future events. Follow us on social media: Facebook | Instagram | Pinterest | Twitter

--Innisfree987 (talk) 04:57, 2 May 2022 (UTC) via MassMessaging[reply]

May songs

Sorry to hear about you intimidated, - that's frightening. - I have the quirky DYK today, which is rare, and I don't quite know why music for peace was deemed quirky. - I took and picked the blue-and-yellow pic last year for May. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:25, 3 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

today performances in Ukraine - for Ukraine - for peace, at the bottom an imaginary set of eight DYK - and more May pics--Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:31, 10 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, Gerda Arendt. Lovely. I've been thinking of a fun project -- unsure yet, but thinking -- of writing all of the notable Urves we do not yet have an article for, Urve (Q16282277), and submitting as a single hook, or trying to see if a full queue could be built out of them. Or perhaps the masculine equivalent, Urban (Q15732140). Unrelated to this message of kindness and grace, see an interesting conversation at User talk:Urve/Archive 1#I received your message. Urve (talk) 01:00, 11 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I can give you a hand with Urves — I would love to write Urve Sunny-Dzidzaria (Q47453094). — The Most Comfortable Chair 03:51, 11 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! I appreciate the help :) Sunny-Dzidzaria is one I considered, too - a great candidate for an article. I've started looking at Urve Manuel. Another (if small) Ukraine connection. Urve (talk) 05:09, 11 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Nice idea. You might also give each their own DYK and then assemble as I did (which I did for a vanity thing, but will probably repeat for topics). It came out as a nice summary of what I stand for this year. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:56, 11 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

today more pics, and should this woman have an article? - or only her sons? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:50, 13 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I like my talk today (actually mostly from 29 May - I took the title pic), enjoy the music, two related videos worth watching! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:46, 31 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

New Page Patrol newsletter May 2022

New Page Review queue March 2022

Hello Urve,

At the time of the last newsletter (No.26, September 2021), the backlog was 'only' just over 6,000 articles. In the past six months, the backlog has reached nearly 16,000, a staggering level not seen in several years. A very small number of users had been doing the vast majority of the reviews. Due to "burn-out", we have recently lost most of this effort. Furthermore, several reviewers have been stripped of the user right for abuse of privilege and the articles they patrolled were put back in the queue.

Several discussions on the state of the process have taken place on the talk page, but there has been no action to make any changes. The project also lacks coordination since the "position" is vacant.

In the last 30 days, only 100 reviewers have made more than 8 patrols and only 50 have averaged one review a day. There are currently 721 New Page Reviewers, but about a third have not had any activity in the past month. All 1035 administrators have this permission, but only about a dozen significantly contribute to NPP.

This means we have an active pool of about 450 to address the backlog. We cannot rely on a few to do most of the work as that inevitably leads to burnout. A fairly experienced reviewer can usually do a review in a few minutes. If every active reviewer would patrol just one article per day, the backlog would very quickly disappear.

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The Signpost: 29 May 2022

June events from Women in Red

Women in Red June 2022, Vol 8, Issue 6, Nos 214, 217, 227, 231, 232, 233 Online events: New: LGBTQ+ women | Greenland and the Faroes | Women in music Contest (Apr/May/Jun): Translation contest (third and last month) Continuing: Climate (year-long initiative) | #1day1woman Other ways to participate: Join the conversations on our talkpage. Help us plan future events. Follow us on social media: Facebook | Instagram | Pinterest | Twitter

--Megalibrarygirl (talk) 09:22, 31 May 2022 (UTC) via MassMessaging[reply]

Barnstar thanks

I appreciate it very much ... especially since that article has kept me busy for the last two months after another user expanded it and nominated it for GA. I figured at first (as always with so much of my work, at first) it would just be a matter of copyediting it. Then I realized that it needed to go into the legal background as much as, if not more, than the baseball background. And that led to adding more about the predecessor cases (and finding citations to the actual cases even when they were over a century old) and then the follow-on cases, and the more research I did in that department the more I found out it needed to have. And it's like getting up to light speed ... the closer you are to c, the more and more impossible it gets to get there.

But late last night I did ... just about in time for the June GA backlog drive. I hope it gets reviewed soon; I think it will. (Meanwhile I'm getting over the emotional down from finishing something that took so long to do, as well as the end of a fairly busy month for me offline). Daniel Case (talk) 00:35, 1 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Daniel Case. And congratulations on having it be in a position that you're proud of! The emotional down is real. Before I started working on Bugchasing in depth, I had this same thought - it's just a matter of cleaning up (and it looked decent, for someone who did not know much of the background), but there's always more to say! I hope it gets picked up soon. I just tested positive for COVID, so I can't take it now. But if it's not taken when I get better, I'll be sure to take a look.

An aside: You may find Poetry in judicial opinions interesting. I'm not too knowledgeable about law, but if you are, you might find that article fun. It doesn't have a very coherent scope (how is quoting a poem the same as poetry? sources aren't too clear, lol) but it's still an interesting subject. Urve (talk) 01:52, 1 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I do have other things I must attend to, both online and off, but for the moment I need to regenerate and can't find it in me to tuck my head and put my shoulder to the grindstone (or, really, the blocking sled ... I played enough football in high school for that to be the metaphor that comes to mind) so soon just yet. So for now I am focusing on smaller tasks, either administrative ones like reviewing and acting (or not acting) on reports at AIV/ANEW/RFPP, or editing ones that I know will not take up so much time or grow beyond my control/expectations (The late William Goldman recalls once asking the (now) equally late James Michener why he always wrote such long books. Michener told him that every time he started one, he thought it was going to be short. I know now just what he was talking about ...)

Doing Flood, for instance, was interrupted by two weeks when, having started to add some stuff to John Carter on the occasion of that film's 10th anniversary, I was in turn led to overhaul and expand the article to nearly double its original length. Down the line I can see GA and FA out of that, but I'm not focused on that for the immediate future. I have also contemporaneously been working on a draft article from a recent news story that has also been emotionally draining as I've found more and more to add to it. I am getting into the homestretch on that one and I hope I can make a DYK out of it.

Speaking of length, now that I have finished Flood, I see that I have more than doubled its size to almost 175K. This now makes it probably the longest actual article in WP:SCOTUS, longer even than United States v. Wong Kim Ark (yes, an FA that's been on the Main Page), and that case is arguably of more widespread real significance to most Americans (whether they realize it or not) ... I mean, it only established birthright citizenship in this country (and like Flood has extensive background material, which honestly I think both articles should). It is also 10K longer than Baseball Rule, which I am also mostly responsible for.

Maybe, also, I am not ready to focus on any major tasks tonight (EDT) because I am at the end of a long hot day here in the Northeast during which I did some mowing of an overgrown lawn at high solar noon (in the shade mostly, to be fair) when it was about 92 °F (33 °C) outside, showered, went out and did some tutoring, got a sub at Subway and came home and then the guy who usually mows our lawn came over and did the rest at dusk so our village won't send someone to do it and send us the bill). I will feel better after a good night's sleep (and honestly writing all this here helps more than I thought it would, too, TBH)

I have to start the copyediting part of a huge GA I signed up to review almost a month ago when I thought I would be done with Flood in a week. But, like I said, June is GA Backlog Elimination Month so it's just the right time.

As for poetry in judicial opinions ... I've read a couple of other examples, though of course they don't need to be in there. You might be interested in one of my Flood sources, that guy at Colorado (Campos?) who described Flood's Section I as a "trace of resistance to the hyperrationality of contemporary legal discourse" ... he sees Rehnquist's Johnson dissent the same way.

And, lastly, speaking of Flood's Section I and poetry, I have noticed (not for the first time) that its verbal style suggests that Blackmun was really doubling down on that bet ... by echoing the rhythms of Finnegans Wake, down to the not one but two lists in just a few pages, minus the multilingual puns. The odd choices of words, to me, gives it away—especially "environs", a word familiar from its use in the first sentence of Joyce's novel, which only makes sense there that way.

It's not poetry, but you might also get a kick from the first two paragraphs of Chief Justice Roberts' dissent from denial of cert in Pennsylvania v. Dunlap, where he recounted the facts of the case not in the usual dry legal style but as if it were hardboiled pulp-novel midcentury crime fiction.

I am sorry to hear that you have COVID ... I hope it is not too severe. At the very least it should be a chance to get some rest. My wife got it during the first week of the year; the worst symptom she reported was the nighttime fever spikes, and one night of a brief coughing fit ... I worked as a contact tracer last year; one guy I talked to was in a household where everyone had gotten it so they wound up being called as their family members' contacts. He had the worst coughing ... he'd get out an answer to my questions, then put out seven or eight of just the most awful coughs I've ever heard before he was able to talk again. I tell people that (my wife notwithstanding) I have not seen the face of COVID but I've definitely heard its voice, and I think that might have been worse. It will be my lasting memory of this pandemic.

I hope that your time off is something you can use productively. My wife got caught up on watching Penny Dreadful while she was on the couch most of that week. May you get something similar out of your infection. Daniel Case (talk) 02:59, 1 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You're giving me a lot to think about. Thank you, Daniel Case. I'll have to think this over and provide a more coherent reply when I can. Your comments are helpful re the poetry article. I have to confess I've never read Finnegans Wake, which is a pity. That might be a bedbound project. I've been working on a little pamphlet called Helena's Social Supremacy, which was a part of the fascinating 1894 Montana capital referendum. It's surprising we didn't have an article on either yet, considering so many editors are active in the referendums and elections area. You will like the Newby article that I cite there. The Colored Citizen also has an interesting history. I'm not too familiar with the West - my knowledge only extends as far as Nebraska :P - but these little movements in history make me think a lot about the harsh realities of settlement and living. (Of course, settlement is a harsh reality on both ends.) Urve (talk) 10:28, 1 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, and yes - I've always loved that Dunlap dissent. People talk up Kagan's writing in Yates v. United States as an exemplar of judicial humor and innovative writing, but Roberts takes the cake. An interesting related thought: There's been a lot of talk - I'm not sure if it's in sources yet, though - about Gorsuch's plain, down-to-earth style of writing. May warrant some elaboration in his biography. Urve (talk) 10:32, 1 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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