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This sentence is problematic: He also believes that within a European community, the political right and left are forced to advocate "the same economic policy, social liberalism or liberal socialism"

It was obviously translated directly from the French article: Selon lui, à cause de l'Union européenne, la gauche comme la droite ne peuvent qu'appliquer « la même politique [économique], le social-libéralisme ou le libéralisme-social »

My problem is that libéralisme-social doesn't mean the same thing at all as liberal socialism. Liberal socialism is a term sometimes used (ignorantly) in American English to mean social democracy or democratic socialism, (e.g. Michael Moore is sometimes called a "liberal socialist"), while libéralisme-social has nothing to do with socialism, it's basically another way of saying social-libéralisme (e.g. Barack Obama). Zemmour was making a kind of play of words; I think it can't really be translated, it would be better to simply put it: ...are forced to advocate "the same economic policy, social liberalism. In any case the word socialism should go, because Zemmour didn't mean to say the EU promotes any kind of socialism, which is the point of his criticism. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.247.85.103 (talk) 03:33, 17 April 2010 (UTC)[]

"Ethnicity" does not mean nothing in France since nobody really cares about it. Mr. Zemmour parents were French citizens when Algeria was a French colony. Just as their parents and grand-parents also were. Mr. Zemmour joked himself with that because Zemmour is a name of Berber origin (it means "olive") and people which are Jews, Christians or Muslims, may bear it. Nobody will tell that someone like Mr. Édouard Balladur is "ethnically Armenian" or that Mr. Nicolas Sarkozy is "ethnically Hungarian". I think that clearing this from is infobox would be better, because antisemitic nationalists only would use it in France.--Leznodc (talk) 15:31, 6 June 2011 (UTC)[]

hate speech

What are the reasons for censoring a contribution ? I wrote that Zemmour is in difficulty because of his hate speech, a fact that is well established in France because he has been condemned. User yintan undid my cotribution but gives no reason, and can't be reached.

Should I start to undo his undoing ??? Or how to stop his unjustified censoring ?

--Ft (talk) 21:20, 28 December 2016 (UTC)[]

Wikipedia takes great care in how we describe living persons, and this is not always easy for relatively new Wikipedians to get correct. As a rule of thumb, a potential negative comment on an individual should be concrete and backed up by reference, as well as dispassionate in language. Thus, instead of writing that Zemmour is notorious for hate speech, it's rather recommended to write exactly what he has been convicted for and include a reference or more. If there are references included in the body of the article, you don't necessarily need to include it in the lede though (and as you can see the conviction for racism in covered in the body of this article). In addition to condemnation in courts, one may also include criticism from respectable individuals/organizations etc, but criticism should be given due weight and do not always belong in the lede. As finding the right phrasing and nature of criticism of an individual can be complicated and is very sensitive, it may often be a good idea to not jump right into these issues until one has a good grasp in general of the rules and practices of Wikipedia. Iselilja (talk) 22:08, 28 December 2016 (UTC)[]

"Alternate History Novel"?

The article makes reference to "the alternate history novel by Frédéric Deslauriers (2011), Les Deux-Cents jours de Marine Le Pen..." and describes her winning the 2012 election. I'm re-phrasing this as 'speculative fiction' since a novel written in 2011 can't be an "alternate history" as it dealt with the then-future (unless we're also going to consider a LOT of science fiction to be "alternate history" because history subsequently took a different course).70.174.126.206 (talk) 05:50, 16 September 2021 (UTC)[]

Section "Cases before French jurisdictions"

This section only deals with his two lost cases.
Whereas there are at least 5 other instances where he won against the persons or entities who sued him on similar grounds (racism, hate, defamation). See, in French: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Éric_Zemmour#Relaxes
This section is also greatly unbalanced. --Emigré55 (talk) 13:46, 28 September 2021 (UTC)[]

As nobody improved the section since this warning, I have introduced a sub section on the 6 legal cases he won so far.
Thus the banners do not seem to be necessary anymore, and I have removed them for the whole section.--Emigré55 (talk) 07:45, 3 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Section "Overview of political positions"

--Emigré55 (talk) 15:51, 3 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Section "Controversies and conflicts with opponents"

--Emigré55 (talk) 16:03, 3 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Far right?

Note: The initial comment was previously posted at User_talk:Hemiauchenia. Hemiauchenia (talk) 22:07, 5 October 2021 (UTC)
Hello, As you reverted my previous reorganisation of Zemmour's presentation, I would like to discuss it with you as your grounds are not accurate and/or complete. He was and is first known in France as a journalist and famous book writer, who became then famous as a polemist on TV talk shows, before "exploding" this year with his expected/soon to be candidacy to the presidential election. This is the somewhat chronological approach and emphasis on his main activities first which my editing tries to reflect. As to the the "far right" qualification, 2 things: 1/ it is debated, as you can read in the section on his political views (pls read third sentence), and especially by Jean-Yves Camus, the most eminent specialist of far right and extremists movements in France (I added his quote on this subject). Not all the media call him a "far right", and I am documenting this and will soon edit on this as well. 2/ "Far right" is often used with a negative or even derogatory meaning (in France at least but even in the US), and as he himself describes as a "Gaullist & Napoleanist" (which is not far right), and is also described as such by other media, this article deserves now a more precise presentation of him on this single aspect as well. Trust this helps you understand my cautious approach to a careful reoganization of this presentation, to encompass all aspects of this person, without giving too much or biased importance to a particular aspect of his biography/personality. Wihtout, of course, deleting any previous info. Just reorganising and balancing them when needed, as I did, to be also as neutral as possible. Cheers, --Emigré55 (talk) 21:44, 5 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Someone's self designation is irrelevant, we don't describe Alex Jones in wikivoice as a paleoconservative, even though that's what he self-identifies as, because reliable sources labell him a far-right conspiracy theorist. Zemmour has been labelled as far-right in numerous english language sources, including The Times, The Guardian, Reuters, which describes him as more radical than Marine Le Pen, Politico Bloomberg The New York Times describes him as "known for his far-right nationalism". Jean Yves Camus definiton of Far-right, which excludes all but literal facists and neo-nazis, is at odds with most mainstream definitions of far right, and would exclude well known european far-right figures such as Tommy Robinson (activist). Hemiauchenia (talk) 22:04, 5 October 2021 (UTC)[]
You are right in saying that Zemmour has been described (far right) as such by many sources. Sources I did not remove, btw; I even added a footnote (a) listing them all. But not all sources describe him so. How do we balance then this ? I believe my editing is a better way to do it than a blunt "far right" first hand description, which does not encompass the entirety of this person and the complexity of the subject. Which other way would you suggest?--Emigré55 (talk) 22:13, 5 October 2021 (UTC)[]
I personally don't think that Camus definition would exclude Robinson. Will try and look to see if he studied him.--Emigré55 (talk) 22:16, 5 October 2021 (UTC)[]
I will add soon other sources describing him other than "far right". Just allow me the time to do it, as I have also other duties. cheers, --Emigré55 (talk) 22:19, 5 October 2021 (UTC)[]
Here is a list of other political qualifications used by other French media to present him, as I edited it in the article (with due sources of the many media concerned): "Many other French media present him also “on the right”, or even in the “conservative right”, or as “Gaullist”, or in the “sovereignist right”, or in the “radical right”, or in the “radical and identitary right”:
L'Express, Libération, La Presse.ca, Entreprendre, Le JDD, Midi Libre, Nice Presse, Ouest France, France inter, Courrier international - Il Foglio, Vanity Fair, Le Parisien, L'Obs, L'Opinion, LCI, Le Soir.be
cheers, --Emigré55 (talk) 13:20, 6 October 2021 (UTC)[]

"Violent speech"

The word 'violent' should be removed here. 216.8.174.241 (talk) 17:57, 6 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Jewish Berber?

Note: The initial comment was previously posted at User_talk:Hemiauchenia. Hemiauchenia (talk) 19:10, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
Hello, I don't believe that precising that his parents are Jewish Berbers is appropriate in the introduction. Just because something is well sourced doesn't mean it should be in the introduction, has it doesn't have anything to do with his political views or his biography in general.[]

Faithfully --Vanlister (talk) 18:52, 6 October 2021 (UTC)[]

It's in his early life section. The fact that Zemmour is jewish is a noteworthy piece of background context, especially for his views on muslims. I don't think it's undue to mention it. Hemiauchenia (talk) 19:10, 6 October 2021 (UTC)[]
I've reverted as I didn't understand that he was only removing it from the lead. As such I've reverted myself. Hemiauchenia (talk) 20:56, 6 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Of course anti-Semitic Wikipedia smears him as far-right

Of course the leftist-dominated Wikipedia smears a prominent Jewish conservative who fights against Islamic supremacism as far-right. The Left hates Jews and wants us to be annihilated by the Moslem horde it is trying to replace us with.