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Please set accurate license information on the images. GPL is a software license. You'd set it to PD-old images (images in public domain for being too old). Platonides 14:15, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

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GIF

GIFs are not good for photos in most cases... AnonMoos 18:00, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

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These maps are clearly copyrighted. Sorry, Yann (talk) 11:09, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

You can ask for an Undeletion requests. Regards, Yann (talk) 15:19, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

Note: Jane023 (talk · contribs) restored the image which was original deleted as copyvio, without waiting for a response. I was going to restore the image and send to DR, which I have just done anyway. Discussion is here Commons:Deletion requests/Image:Kaart-haarlem.JPG. -- I am curious as to why you did not simply wait for a response from myself or another administrator? Cirt (talk) 18:04, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

Clicking on a purge tab would not undelete an entry. If we are talking about this particular image then from your edit summary you clearly chose to re-upload the image. Am I incorrect? And if not, why did you do so without first waiting for feedback from an administrator? Cirt (talk) 18:50, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

Image:Kaart-haarlem.JPG - This image should be visible to you now. You uploaded it the first time on 14:13, 3 January 2008 with no edit summary, just the description of the image itself. It was tagged as copyvio by Mcke (talk · contribs) and I deleted it as copyvio. You uploaded it a second time at 09:56, 31 August 2008 with the comment: I don't think this file should be deleted, neither do I feel that I have infringed on a copyright violation, because the picture I took is in the public space, attached to the side of a shower building for watersporters. Pedestrian traffic passes the building. I can upload a larger image which shows the building in its entirety, but the map itself I found interesting as it shows some major touristic attractions. In principle all works communicated to the public by or on behalf of the public authorities (government) are not copyright protected in the Netherlands, unless the copyright has been reserved explicitly, either in a general manner by law, decree or ordinance, or in a specific case by a notice on the work itself or at the communication to the public. I am also surprised that the file has been deleted without nomination. - Jane023 - So, in summary, you uploaded it once, it got deleted as copyvio, you knew it was deleted as copyvio, you asked me on my talk page about it, did not wait to hear for a response, and went ahead and uploaded a suspected copyvio image a second time. Please in the future wait to hear back for a response from an administrator instead of re-uploading an image that was deleted with the rationale of copyvio. Thank you, Cirt (talk) 19:43, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

You have still not acknowledged that you first uploaded the image on 3 January 2008, and then again a second time on 31 August 2008 after it was deleted. Is my statement above about the chronology of your uploads of that image incorrect? Cirt (talk) 21:31, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Hi Cirt, I can acknowlege that I and only I uploaded the image, and I and only I wrote the comment you have listed above. The scenario was slightly different, in that I think you were actually the third person I contacted. I don't know if you noticed, the problem is with two pictures, not just Image:Kaart-haarlem.JPG, but also Image:Het-geheim-van-holland.JPG. I just uploaded a larger image Image:Douche-gravenstenebrug-haarlem.JPG ‎that shows both in their original context. Hopefully this will shed some light on the matter. Jane023 (talk) 21:39, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

So yes, you acknowledge that you did upload the image after you saw it was deleted as suspected copyio instead of waiting to hear back from an administrator? Cirt (talk) 21:51, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Hi Cirt, No, as I stated before, I only uploaded the image once last year. You seem to feel I uploaded a second version, but I did't. I have only tried my best to follow the advice of all the links to make an undeletion request, which is quite confusing for me. I certainly hope you can help me out here. If not and the image has been damaged, then I can re-upload the image. Jane023 (talk) 20:05, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

It appears I made a mistake in my assessment - you recreated the page where the image was located by adding your comment, but did not re-upload the image itself. I am going to take a break from this issue and defer to whatever is the outcome of Commons:Deletion requests/Image:Kaart-haarlem.JPG. Cirt (talk) 20:26, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

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Wiki Takes Haarlem

Hoi Jane023, volgens mij kom jij uit Haarlem en misschien vind je het wel leuk om mee te doen met http://wikilovesmonuments.nl/wiki-takes-haarlem/ aanstaande zaterdag. Inschrijven kan op nl:Wikipedia:Ontmoeten#Wiki takes Haarlem (puur om een idee te krijgen met hoeveel we zijn). Multichill (talk) 10:42, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

Multichill, Bedankt voor de uitnodiging! Misschien kom ik wel, want ik had het al gezien. Echter, ik geloof dat ik mijn tijd beter kan besteden met het ordenen van mijn photos. Ik heb de afgelopen dagen al heel wat monumentjes toegevoegd waarvan ik niet eens wist dat het monumentjes waren! Ik vind het trouwens wel een leuke actie, want al uploadend, kom ik een hoop info tegen dankzij de RM site.Jane023 (talk) 11:37, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

Als je het {{Rijksmonument}} id eenmaal gevonden hebt en hebt toegevoegd dan gaat er een wereld van mogelijkheden open ;-)

Er zullen routes met lijsten zijn zodat je op een hoog tempo foto's kan nemen en later ook nog weet welke foto bij wel id hoort. Mijn bot zoekt er dan weer alle info bij. Multichill (talk) 12:40, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

Interessant! Ik vroeg me af hoe de coordinates bijkwamen! Ik heb me opgegeven.Jane023 (talk) 15:28, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

Als het {{Rijksmonument}} erop zit met een juist id dan:

Voegt de bot de meest specifieke Rijksmonumenten in... categorie toe
Voegt de bot de meest specifieke gebouw categorie toe (churches in Haarlem, houses in Haarlem)
Voegt de bot {{Object location}} toe

Scheelt dus een hoop handwerk! Leuk dat je erbij bent. Tot zaterdag, Multichill (talk) 19:31, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

Kan het zijn dat de overlay in Google maps niet helemaal goed is? Ik zie een paar nummers die plotseling naar de Molen Adriaan wijzen (bv "hortus medicus", RM 19667 - dit moet zijn de tuintje bij de stedelijk gym achter het stadhuis - photo is File:Statue of Laurens Jansz. Coster, designed by Romeyn de Hooghe.jpg). Ik zag eerder hetzelfde bij een ander monumentvan Coster - ipv in het bos zegt Google maps dat het staat midden op de Dreef.Jane023 (talk) 20:55, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

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Same question in more than one place

Generally most Commons denizens, and particularly the Administrators, work very hard at being helpful to newbies. We react badly, however, when people ask essentially the same question in more than one place as you have done at

The Help Desk -- PD-US-not renewed (Netherlands) and
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Please be assured that your images will not be deleted until and unless there has been a thorough examination of the issues and the licenses have been found wanting. Please don't shop for answers in more than one place, as it simply wastes time of other Commons users to answer the same question twice. Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk to me) 12:23, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, but believe me, I am certainly not being creative in my responses here! I only placed the inquiry at the Commons helpdesk after being requested to do this via email received this morning through the OTRS procedure. Jane023 (talk) 12:25, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Category:Painters from the Netherlands

Hi there,

Again on painters from the Netherlands: I got some feedback on the new category scheme from User:Foroa. According to this user some of the categories are too specialised and too deep. For example users who are looking for Rembrandt have to work their way through several countries at the moment. Maybe this user has a point. So I was thinking about moving some of the subcategories (like Category:Rembrandt) up one level. So in effect that would mean that categories like Category:Renaissance painters from the Northern Netherlands, Category:Dutch Golden Age painters and Category:18th-century painters from the Northern Netherlands would disappear. The end-result would look something like Category:Draughtsmen from the Southern Netherlands (before 1830). Just one super category containing just names. Do you think that's a good idea or are there any of these categories you wouldn't like to see go?

Regards, Vincent Steenberg (talk) 13:00, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

Vincent, as long as I can still see and understand what you're doing, I can live with any decision you take. Having proceeded to work with what we have so far, I get sometimes confused myself. Doing this will make it more difficult to see who was a colleague of whom, but I don't think most people tried using the cats on commons anyway. Most people view the pictures through their native-language Wikipedia. It will be easier to administer lists of names and hopefully easier to track doubles. Are you going to keep the century categories like Category:17th-century painters from the Netherlands? Because I guess you can put all the DGA ones in there. I am not sure where the Southern border to France is now though! Jane023 (talk) 13:32, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

I was thinking of only keeping Category:Early Netherlandish painters, because they are so similar in style and the Netherlands weren't divided in north and south back then. For the sake of 'easier navigation' I would like to put all the others in two main categories: Category:Painters from the Southern Netherlands (before 1830) and Category:Painters from the Northern Netherlands (before 1815). So yes, DGA painters would go, but also "17th century painters from the Netherlands". Vincent Steenberg (talk) 14:03, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

I think the Netherlands were not considered divided until well after 1830 (and I think most Americans still don't get it and see Belgium & Holland as one country). When I look at Category:17th-century painters there are a bunch of subcategories in there and I think one for the Flemish painters would be handy. I think it helps to have a few categories based on time periods. I have given up though trying to make sense out of categories like Mannerism and Baroque as time periods. I am also confused by the 15-year gap between 1815-1830. I think it should all be 1830 since you can only split them once. And then the split into two official countries that still exist today is of course after 1830 and not before. So my logical choice would be to lose the split before 1830, since that causes confusion - there were lots of painters who moved around a lot in the 17th century, working on large projects for various courts, and they are mostly considered Flemish, not Dutch. Jane023 (talk) 14:41, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

ok, so basically you want to keep Category:Dutch Golden Age painters and rename it to something more suitable. That's ok with me. What about Category:Renaissance painters from the Northern Netherlands and Category:18th-century painters from the Northern Netherlands? Should I keep those as well? And yes, you're right. 1830 is better than having two dates. I will keep that in mind from now on. Vincent Steenberg (talk) 17:28, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

Well I think it may be useful to rename both renaissance cats to 16th century Netherlandish (that correctly leaves Early Neth to refer to 15th, 14th and earlier). I noticed several people using Early Neth for 16th century, which now is supposed to be "renaissance" while lots of it is early Baroque. Then you get the 17th century which could be 17th century Flemish - what do you think about that? Then 18th century Flemish, 19th century Flemish, and then after 1830 Dutch or Belgian. The trick is choosing between Netherlandish or Flemish as terms. I interpret Netherlandish as starting in Northern France all the way to Strassbourg and up to Denmark. I suppose that is too wide an area however. What do you think? Jane023 (talk) 07:49, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

That's fine I think. As long as Category:Painters from the Southern Netherlands (before 1830) is kept. I am aware that the term "Flemish" is much more widespread than the term "Southern Netherlandish", but the term "Flemish" remains problematic as it is an anachronism and excludes the French-speaking people. But a category like "17th century painters from Flanders" might be easier to understand than "Baroque painters from the Southern Netherlands".

About Early Netherlandish painters, don't forget that I made a sort of objective definition of those (born before 1490). So far this works fine, so I don't think this category needs to be changed.

About the definition of the Netherlands, I would say the en:Seventeen Provinces plus Liège. Vincent Steenberg (talk) 18:45, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

Hmm. The seventeen provinces is fine, one needs to draw the line somewhere. The difference of language is interesting. From about 1560 onwards, French was spoken by the majority of the inhabitants of Haarlem, and even during the Spanish occupation until 1572 the official language was French. It wasn't until the 1640's that Dutch started making a comeback in official documents, but Haarlem still has a French Walloon church dating from that period. I don't think that Flemish means "not French speaking", except in the Netherlands, and again that's because of the sensitivity of the Belgians. I guess I am not quite clear on what you really want; do you want to keep the separation line French-speaking/Dutch-speaking in two big categories from born 1490-1810 and drop the century time periods? Or do you want to drop the geographical categories and keep just century categories? Jane023 (talk) 21:28, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

I was more thinking about the present situation in Belgium. Calling Rubens a Flemish painter is one thing, but calling a 17th-century Liegois painter Flemish is another. My initial proposal was to keep two main categories (Category:Painters from the Northern Netherlands (before 1815) and Category:Painters from the Southern Netherlands (before 1830)) without any time periods. My question was if that is ok, or if you want to keep categories by period. I take it from your response that you do. Is that right? Vincent Steenberg (talk) 16:16, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

OK I get it now. The strange thing is that I am a heavy category user, but I gave up on categories as a tracking tool and I keep my own lists now, which I assume you do too. I have no problem with lots of categories, but I don't really need them. When I see categories split into countries, I tend to add the Netherlands in there. If you feel this is too many, then I'll stop doing that. So what you propose now then is to have these two big categories (North vs South) stretching from birthyear 1490 to approximately 1810? I'm OK with that. Jane023 (talk) 17:03, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

ok, great. Then I'll work towards that from now on. Thanks a lot. Regards, Vincent Steenberg (talk) 17:29, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

No problem - Happy categorizing! Jane023 (talk) 20:14, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

Photo Credits

Hello Jane,

I hope I am doing this right as I have never contacted someone via Wikipedia before. I work for a lifestyle magazine and we would like to use one of your images of Haarlem. However, we would like to credit you under your real name rather than your username. Could you perhaps contact me via Email at stutz@tas-lifestylemagazin.de and let me know how we should credit you? We'd need the information by next week. :-)

all the best, Rebecca

Tasmanier (talk) 09:10, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

Hi Rebecca, I sent you a response by mail to the address you mentioned. The proper way to credit my photos is with "Jane023, CC-BY-SA", unless it's an old photo that I uploaded under the GNU license. I believe those older licenses require adding a lot more information to the attribution (like the entire text of the license) so if that's not OK, then let me know and I will just change the license. My *intention* is to post everything here in such a way as to make it as easy as possible for other people to reuse, which I have now come to understand is best represented with the license called CC-BY-SA. Jane023 (talk) 11:44, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

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File:Fans at grave of Jim Morrison.jpg

Bonjour et merci pour votre participation à Wiki loves Monuments.

Cependant, la photo File:Fans at grave of Jim Morrison.jpg ne représente pas le monument historique ou l'élément du monument protégé par l'arrêté du ministère de la Culture que vous lui avez lié. Aussi suis-je obligé de le retirer du concours.

N'hésitez pas à ajouter d'autres clichés, en vérifiant que l'édifice ou l'élément pris en photo bien celui qui est protégé !

Bonne participation, Trizek ^{here or on fr:wp} 12:57, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

Category:Huishoudschool Voorhelmstraat

Dag Jane, In bovenstaande categorie staan veel fraaie foto's van deze voormalige school die jij hebt gemaakt. Helaas noem je de school steeds De Greine ipv De Greiner, wat de juiste naam is. Dit maakt je foto's moeilijker vindbaar, bijvoorbeeld bij google-zoekacties.

Als je een manier weet om de foto's makkelijk te hernoemen met een R in de naam, zou dat zeer prettig zijn. Anders moeten we misschien onderstaande beschrijving bij de Description invullen om de foto's makkelijker vindbaar te maken.

De Greiner is een beeldbepalend rijksmonument voor Haarlem en staat midden in de wijk Rozenprieel in Haarlem. De uitbreiding van de bestaande huyishoudschool in 1932 is door architect Dick Greiner ontworpen. Dit unieke monument was het lievelingsbebouw van de architect. Het pand is een voorbeeld van zakelijk expressionisme en bepaalt voornamelijk het gezicht van de school.

Hartelijke groet, Picasdre (talk) 09:04, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

Hoi Picasdre, dank voor je compliment en ik ben blij dat ik niet de enige ben die dit pand leuk vind! Echter, tot mijn eigen verbazing, staat "De Greine" op de voorkant bij de ingang, en niet "De Greiner" wat ik zelf ook had verwacht. Hernoemen kan wel op Commons door een hernoem request in te vullen. Als jij zeker bent dat de naam verkeerd staat op het gebouw, dan laat ik dat doen. Hartelijke groet terug! Jane023 (talk) 09:09, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

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Attend the award ceremony of the Dutch Wiki Loves Monuments 2011

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We've already thanked you for your contribution to the Wiki Loves monuments photo contest. But with a contest, there are prizes to win!

The award ceremony will be held in Utrecht on Saturday the 5th of November, at the end of the Dutch Wikimedia Conference at Media Plaza, held the same day. Media Plaza is located next to the Central Station in Utrecht, in the middle of the shopping mall.
Admittance is free from 3pm onwards, just in time to catch the last few presentations at the WCN. Off course you can join us for the full day conference as well and enjoy a day full of information on wiki's and cultural heritage. After the ceremony, our location sponsor generously offers a free drink to everyone!

Remember: in order to make a chance to win, you need a confirmed e-mail address added to your Commons settings.

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Sent by Lucia Bot^talk in 23:23, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

TUSC token 58a54ecc36000bafda0f40b04c73cfd2

I am now proud owner of a TUSC account! Jane023 (talk) 13:18, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

File:Jean-Baptiste Descamps -Tome Second - Jurien Ovens p281.gif

Hi Jane, I've noticed the Creative Commons license you granted for that image of an old book. There is however an official position taken by the Wikimedia Foundation that "faithful reproductions of two-dimensional public domain works of art are public domain, and that claims to the contrary represent an assault on the very concept of a public domain". That means that photographs of two-dimensional works, where the artwork itself is no longer copyrighted, should always be free of copyright too. So you might want to replace the license with {{PD-art-100}}. Regards, De728631 (talk) 18:10, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

You're quite right. Feel free to update the whole category to reflect pd-old or whatever. I uploaded those with the same communist tool I use for my own photo's and it looks like I forgot to adjust the license. Jane023 (talk) 09:51, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

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Wiki Loves Monuments NL

Beste Jane023,

Alle winnende foto's van Wiki Loves Monuments 2011 zijn ondertussen gedrukt als kalenders.

Wikimedia Nederland stelt er hier 100 van beschikbaar voor alle uploaders van de afbeeldingen. Geef op de bijgevoegde link je naam en adres en we sturen je kosteloos een exemplaar toe, als dank voor je deelname! Let op: op = op!! Bestel hier één kalender per adres.

Ook dit jaar zal er in september weer een Nederlandse Wiki Loves Monuments plaatsvinden, als onderdeel van de internationale wedstrijd. Meer informatie vind je tegen die tijd op http://www.wikilovesmonuments.nl/.
Ook zoeken wij nog vrijwilligers die het leuk vinden om mee te helpen met het organiseren van de landelijke wedstrijd of van locale evenementen (een "Wiki takes..." in je eigen woonplaats dus!). Meer informatie daarover vind je op de wiki van Wikimedia Nederland.

Sent by Lucia Bot^talk in 14:55, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

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Valued Image Promotion

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review

--Vera (talk) 09:12, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, I already saw the nomination and the reason why. I will try to get a picture of the burned-out situation to illustrate how tragic it is. Jane023 (talk) 09:44, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

You could fotograph nr. 148 and 132 while you're there. Or maybe you would be putting them at risk that way if you're superstitious. ;P --Vera (talk) 13:05, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

Gebruik van foto van de Kaatsbaan

Jane,

is het mogelijk de foto van de kaatsbaan te gebruiken op de nieuw op te bouwen site van de wijkraad Kleverpark? Groet van Tammo ter Hark, bouwer van de site. tammo@kleinestappen.nl

Tammo, natuurlijk is dit mogelijk. Vroeger als ik een dergelijke vraag kreeg snapte ik het niet, maar inmiddels wel. De rechten van Wikimedia Commons zijn niet eenvoudig, maar ik heb het zo eenvoudig mogelijk gemaakt. Waar mogelijk geef ik aan dat wat mij betreft voor print publicaties een attributie naar Jane023 is voldoende. Voor websites is het nog makkelijker, want dan hoef je alleen de url van de foto ergens aan te geven, dus ik heb een voorbeeld gebruikt. Zie de volgende voorbeeld html:

<td style="vertical-align: top"> 
<a href="http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Haarlem_-_kaatsbaan.jpg"><img border="0" 
src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/ce/Haarlem_-_kaatsbaan.jpg/100px-Haarlem_-_kaatsbaan.jpg"/></a></td> 
<td style="vertical-align: top"> 
<div style="margin-bottom: 3px"> 
<strong><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huis_ter_Kleef">Huis ter Kleef</a> 
</strong></div> 
<div style="margin-bottom: 3px"> 
<strong>on Wikipedia</strong></div> 
<div style="margin-bottom: 2px; font-size: 100%"> 
The Kaatsbaan is the only part of Castle "Ter Kleef" still standing.</div> 
</td>

Je dient op "edit" te klikken om dit stukje html goed te zien. groet, Jane023 (talk) 07:58, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

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ComputerHotline (talk) 11:35, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

Category:Tulip mania

Unfortunately, "Category:Tulip mania" seems to be redundant and duplicative of previously-existing "Category:Tulipomania"... AnonMoos (talk) 14:57, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

Yes, but Tulip Mania is the more common version of the name. I was trying to find out where "Tulipomania" comes from, as I agree, they should be merged. Jane023 (talk) 15:06, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

Both are OK, but only one is needed, and Tulipomania was established first, and is perhaps the internationally most common form. The fact that the English Wikipedia article is "Tulip mania" doesn't automatically mean that the Commons category needs to be identical in name... AnonMoos (talk) 21:32, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

Again, I agree, but I noticed the category is filled with non-Haarlem pictures, whereas "Tulip mania" refers specifically to the local stockjobbing market crash in the town of Haarlem. Tulipomania is more general term referring to other city exchanges, all based on The Tulipomania chapter in Charles Mackay's 1841 book. The two should not be considered the same, as one is based on on-going research into archives, and the other is frozen in time and space in 1841. Jane023 (talk) 10:02, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

On reflection (also considering the paintings in the Frans Hals Museum), I think maybe the Tulip Mania category should be renamed to "Tulip Mania, Haarlem". Tulipomania is just too big to fix. Jane023 (talk) 09:27, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for participating in Wiki Loves Monuments 2012!

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Holiday greetings

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Dank, en eens gelijks! Jane023 (talk) 10:52, 13 December 2012 (UTC)

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Iconclass codes

Hello,

You asked about COM:VPP#Iconclass codes. As it has been a month I will drop a reply here: There is currently no cooperation with Wikidata, but you can use {{Iconclass}} template. MKFI (talk) 08:05, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! Now the next job is to get this field added to {{Artwork}}, but this is a start. Jane023 (talk) 12:11, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

File:Romanreliefbank.jpg

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Magere Compagnie

Hi Jane, I do not understand your change and would like to revert it. But first I want to ask you. Thanks and regards. --Oursana (talk) 12:40, 19 December 2013 (UTC)

It's quite simple really - I just created a category for the civic guard itself in order to keep all of the relevant images together. You will notice that the category is itself in the meta-category of Amsterdam civic guard. I have been categorizing the schutterstukken by schutterij. Jane023 (talk) 08:50, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

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Jacob Campo Weyerman

Hallo Jane023, in extension of your uploads maybe you can use that here: Sothebys, image? regards --Trzęsacz (talk) 23:06, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

others: [1], [2] --Trzęsacz (talk) 23:14, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

Thanks! I updated File:JCWeyerman - VIII Plate 4 - Maria Sybille Merian - David van der Plaas.jpg and File:Jeronimus Sweerts - flowers in a basket with shells and a bird and a bowl of fruit.jpg, but I am unable to save the tiled zoomify as a whole jpg, so I don't know how to update File:Frans van Mieris - resting traveler.jpg. Jane023 (talk) 09:55, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

For zoom-pics you must use Pearl Crescent Page Saver Basic 2.8 and you have in two seconds the file. --Trzęsacz (talk) 10:29, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

Wikimedia Nederland activiteiten over de Tweede Wereldoorlog

Hierbij wil ik je uitnodigen voor een overleg over de Wikimedia Nederland activiteit over De Tweede Wereldoorlog. In het jaarplan 2014 staat dat we dit jaar (en volgend jaar) de inhoud van Wikipedia, Wikimedia Commons en Wikisource willen uitbreiden en verbeteren.Met de fotoactie over oorlogsmonumenten hebben we een start gemaakt. Hoe nu verder? Bij het NIOD zal de komende twee maanden een Wikipedian in Residence aan de slag zijn. Ook het Instituut voor Beeld en Geluid, het Nationaal Archief en de Koninklijke Bibliotheek hebben aangegeven geinteresseerd te zijn in samenwerking rond dit thema. Kansen genoeg om een succesvolle activiteit te ontwikkelen. Ik hoop dat je aanwezig kunt zijn: Woensdag 11 juni, 19:00 u in het kantoor van Wikimedia Nederland in Utrecht (Mariaplaats 3). SRientjes (overleg) 22 mei 2014 15:02 (CEST) 13:23, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

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Wiki Loves Monuments 2014 startet in Kürze

Hallo Jane023,

in Kürze ist es wieder soweit. Der nun schon traditionelle Fotowettbewerb Wiki Loves Monuments wird im September zum vierten Mal stattfinden. In ähnlicher Form hatte unlängst der Wettbewerb "Wiki Loves Earth" eine erfolgreiche Premiere. Zu allen bisherigen vier Wettbewerben haben seit 2011 gut 3000 unterschiedliche Teilnehmer (User) ihren Beitrag geleistet. Du warst dabei, und bist auch herzlich eingeladen, am bevorstehenden WLM-Wettbewerb wieder dabei zu sein.

Allein in Deutschland wurden in den letzten drei Jahren im Rahmen von WLM rund 100.000 Fotos zu den insgesamt ca. 850.000 Kulturdenkmalen bundesweit hochgeladen. Jährlich haben sich mehrere Hundert Wiki-Fotographen daran beteiligt. Auch im kommenden Denkmalmonat wird dies gewiss wieder der Fall sein. Der Tag des offenen Denkmals am 14. September bietet bundesweit vielfältige Möglichkeiten, Denkmale nicht nur von außen, sondern auch von innen zu fotografieren. Denkmallisten sind dabei ein wichtiger Orientierungspunkt und zugleich auch Ziel der Einbindung der Fotos. Auch in diesem Jahr sind wieder neue Denkmallisten hinzugekommen, die hilfreich bei der Planung von individuellen oder Gruppen-Fototouren sind und auf eine Bebilderung warten, wie z.B. zu Görlitz oder Zittau. Unter den Landeshauptstädten fehlt nur noch Stuttgart. Aber auch hier ist Licht in Sicht.

In der Mitte Deutschlands hat die Denkmallandschaft der thüringischen Landeshauptstadt Erfurt nun das Licht der Wikipedia-Welt entdeckt. Mehr als 50 Tabellen enthalten 3.700 Denkmale. Allein die wunderschön restaurierte Altstadt umfasst 1.800 Denkmale. Eine von WMDE geförderte WLM-Fototour nach Erfurt am Wochenende vom 29. – 31. August lädt herzlich ein, diese einzigartige Kulturlandschaft zu dokumentieren. Mehr Informationen findest Du auf der Projektseite.

Wir freuen uns auf Deine weiteren Beiträge für Wikimedia-Projekte.

Viel Spaß beim größten Fotowettbewerb der Wiki(m/p)edia wünscht Dir das Orga-Team.

( Bernd Gross, 16. August 2014)

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Is this really a 1891 banknote? --Ephraim33 (talk) 09:28, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

depends how you calculate the age; by date of design or date of impression. The exhibition where I took pictures was a chronological overview of their Dutch banknotes. Jane023 (talk) 07:48, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

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During a history check I discovers that with this edit you removed the licence tag from the image. In future please be a little more careful and check your edits for errors such as this because it caused the image to appear in the category Category:Media without a license: needs history check and could have been deleted for lack of a licence. It just causes more unnecessary work for other editors. Thanks Ww2censor (talk) 16:40, 29 October 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up. Jane023 (talk) 17:43, 29 October 2014 (UTC)

Don't Coreference Disambiguation pages

Hi Jane! I noticed you've matched to quite a lot of Wikimedia disambiguation pages on https://tools.wmflabs.org/mix-n-match/

I think that's wrong:

Eg Sandrart:Flavius Sabinus should not be matched to Titus Flavius Sabinus because that's a disambiguation page. Instead, you should read the disambiguation page and Sandrart (it says "Zollerheber in Asia und Geldverleiher bei den Helvetiern; vgl. Neue Pauly, Bd. IV, Sp. 550" but I don't grok German), and pick one of the persons only.
Eg you matched RKD artists:Il Bambaia and RKD artists:Bambaia to Bambaia.
- Both of these are disambiguation pages in RKD that say "See: Busti, Agostino". The Wikipedia disambiguation page "Bambaia" also lists Agostino Busti, and clearly that's the correct match. So you should match to Agostino Busti
- I'm not sure it's useful to match RKD disambiguation pages to anything, really. We should match persons to persons, not disambiguation pages to disambiguation pages.

--Vladimir Alexiev (talk) 18:47, 13 February 2015 (UTC)

Hi Vladimir, thanks for looking at Mix-n-Match. The problem you are seeing is a problem with the downloaded database from RKD. There is no way to just download the actual entries, so all of the doubles (what you call "rkd disambiguation pages") are in the downloaded copy.

I'm now writing to Magnus: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mix%27n%27match#Filter_out_Disambiguation_entries_and_Un-notable_Persons

Though I agree that we would ideally only want one unique rkd id number to link to one unique q number, the reality is messier than that. Matching in Mix-n-Match is not easy, but any match is better than none.

A correct match is better than none. How did you know RKD's "Bambaia" is the same as Wikidata's "Bambaia" unless you opened both pages and read about it? Then you'll see RKD's is really about Agostino Busti https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q395600, and not the disambig page you matched

Also, we would ideally want all spellings that have pages in the rkd to be listed in the ALTNAMES list of the q number.

Yes, but just linking disambigs leaves the ALTNAMES deeply hiden. I did add "Il Bambaia" to Agostino Busti (and "Bambaia" was already there, in another language)

I am not sure what you were looking at that you stumbled across my matches. Are you looking at Mix-N-Match or at Wikidata through queries? Jane023 (talk) 18:54, 13 February 2015 (UTC)

Mix-n-match has a tab called "Disambiguations", I looked at it. Cheers! Vladimir

Vladimir, I don't open both pages before matching, but go from the meta data displayed. If the metadata displayed is incorrect, which does happen occasionally, this is usually because between the moment that the rkd database was loaded into Mix-N-Match and the moment of the match, something has changed on the side of the automatically matched q number. Spot checking these shows that it is actually quite rare. I am flattered you think I could open two records for each match but I have done tens of thousands of these just by clicking through the Mix-n-Match screen. I only occasionally open the links. Jane023 (talk) 19:30, 13 February 2015 (UTC)

So in this case you matched based on name only? But names are very often ambiguous! A brief example: in this ULAN id violation report, most of the equal names are different people (eg Charles Bridges (Q5075775) vs Charles Bridges (Q18641990)) --Vladimir Alexiev (talk) 07:27, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

Don't worry, I am well aware of the ambiguity of name-spellings. I apologize for not documenting each matching decision. Please be aware that changes in the data can go two ways: Wikipedia pages that once were articles can become disambigs, and so forth. In this particular instance I have no idea. I also don't think it's important enough to dissect. Jane023 (talk) 10:09, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

Also, though I am a very active Mix-n-Matcher for both rkd and ULAN, I am not the only matcher, though on any given "sync" request from Mix-n-Match that I make, it may appear as if I was the matcher, because the bulk update to Wikidata was made in my name. Jane023 (talk) 10:12, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

I'm looking at the user name for each match in mix-n-match. My thinking is that a wrong match is harmful since the error will easily be propagated.

The only way to make sure a match is correct is to examine more data about the person, which will necessarily lead you to a real person page. Eg look at ULAN coref data (potential match/mismatch is recorded by their editors): that's good data that gives you some basis for decision. A name alone does not. --Vladimir Alexiev (talk) 19:39, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

Well actually for women it often does! You would be surprised how few women are in Wikidata at all that match up to anything in the ULAN with a female name. If they're not a female sports hero or actress, they can probably be matched on name alone. I do however check these in Wikidata, because generally I am able to add a few more properties to the Wikidata item based on the linked Wikipedia article. Sorry if I still haven't answered your questions enough but I guess I still am a bit unclear about what you are trying to achieve exactly. If you just want to complain that my matching ability is not 100% accurate, then I guess I can't help you very much. I still don't believe it's necessary to open both links on each match in order to create a good working system of interlinked databases. Jane023 (talk) 07:28, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

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Hi Jane, a question about this graph https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Females_in_matched_RKDartists.jpg I was wondering, did you also add the RKD ID's to these wikipages in Authority control? Sorry ik kan ook nederlands met je praten zie ik. alvast bedankt! Reem Weda

Hi Reem, ik heb persoonlijk heel wat gematched, maar lang niet alles. Trouwens de grafiek zou ik moeten updaten want wij hebben inmiddels veel meer matches. Als je meer wil weten over de matching proces, kan je dat hier lezen: Andy's blog post about MIx-n-Match groet, Jane023 (talk) 16:33, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

Updated: File:Percent Females in matched RKDartists 2015-03-10.jpg Best, Jane023 (talk) 07:48, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

That's a lot! Congratulations! --Vladimir Alexiev (talk) 19:40, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

Thanks - you may also be interested in this one: File:Percent females in matched ULAN artist database.jpg, Best, Jane023 (talk) 20:12, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

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Hallo Jane023,

nun ist es wieder soweit. Vom 1. bis zum 30. September findet zum fünften Mal der internationale Wettbewerb Wiki Loves Monuments statt. Im Mittelpunkt steht bekanntlich das Fotografieren von Kulturdenkmalen. Du hast an einem der letzten Fotowettbewerbe teilgenommen und wir freuen uns auf weitere Bildbeiträge von Dir.

Viele interessante Motive, nicht nur Burgen und Schlösser, sondern auch Fachwerkhäuser, Brücken und Brunnen, technische und Industriedenkmale und vieles mehr gibt es noch zu fotografieren, damit sie in der Wikipedia dokumentiert werden können. Nützliche Tipps findest du auf unserer WLM-Projektseite. Du kannst gerne individuell Fototouren durchführen oder aber Dich auch Gruppentouren anschließen. Besonders freuen wir uns auf Fotos, die Lücken in den Denkmallisten der Wikipedia ausfüllen.

Darüber hinaus kannst Du auch an der Arbeit der Jury teilnehmen, die Mitte Oktober die Fotos bewerten und die Gewinner ermitteln wird. Bis zum 15. August kannst du hier Deine Bewerbung einreichen.

Viel Erfolg und Spaß beim größten Fotowettbewerb der Wiki(m/p)edia in den bevorstehenden Wettbewerbswochen wünscht Dir das Orga-Team. Wir freuen uns auf Deine Fotos.

( Bernd Gross, 6. August 2015)

Pieter de Hooch

Hi Jane. I just discovered your work on Pieter de Hooch. Great, great job. Thank you! Olivier (talk) 21:00, 7 September 2015 (UTC)

I should rephrase: this is amazing! As you know, I had done this, but since we talked about it, I still don't have a Catalogue Raisonné about de Hooch. Olivier (talk) 21:06, 7 September 2015 (UTC)

Thanks! Of course I used all of your work, so you can go ahead and take credit for half the job. I only picked De Hooch because you made it so easy. I don't have a catalog about him either, but I just borrowed the Peter C. Sutton from my local library. --Jane023 (talk) 06:55, 8 September 2015 (UTC)

Glad to hear that you built upon what I had done, and even more glad to see that we now have a great list of de Hooch's works available. Talking about de Hooch, maybe you could contribute your knowledge at Commons:Categories for discussion/2015/09/Category:Portrait of a Family Playing Music: as I see it, it is pretty much about naming, and a painting can have many names. Not sure which one is the most appropriate in this case. Olivier (talk) 14:52, 8 September 2015 (UTC)

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Bedankt voor het insturen van jouw foto’s van cultureel erfgoed in het kader van Wiki Loves Monuments 2015. Een professionele jury kiest straks uit alle inzendingen de beste foto’s in drie categorieën: beste foto van een monument, beste foto van een ornament en beste foto van een Dudok monument. Daarnaast is er ook een speciaal klassement voor de inzenders van de meeste foto’s van unieke monumenten. Wil jij ook kans maken op één van de vele prijzen, beschikbaar gesteld door onze partners en sponsoren? Vergeet dan niet om op Wikimedia Commons, onder voorkeuren (rechts bovenin, naast je gebruikersnaam) het vinkje bij e-mail van andere gebruikers toestaan (onder het kopje e-mail in het gebruikersprofiel), aan te vinken. Alleen deelnemers met een e-mailadres maken kans op prijzen. Benieuwd welke prijzen je allemaal kunt winnen? Kijk dan op http://www.wikimedia.nl/projectpagina/prijzenoverzicht

Groeten,

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Picture of the Day 4 januari 2016

Hallo Jane023, Hé kijk eens, vandaag een Haarlemse Picture of the Day. Is dat een foto of een schilderij? --Michielverbeek (talk) 05:58, 4 January 2016 (UTC)

Wow - prachtig! Dank voor de link. Ik zal kijken of ik het kan gebruiken op Wikipedia. --Jane023 (talk) 16:44, 9 January 2016 (UTC)

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@Jane023: your page caught my eye for the above reason as well as for your cultural interests. It is clear Wiki is not succeeding as well as it might in certain Arab countries, so I suggest in view that the Lord Mayor of London is to visit UAE, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Bahrain next week qv. http://www.cityoflondon.gov.uk/about-the-city/the-lord-mayor/Pages/overseas-business-visits.aspx that Wiki provides a quick résumé on ويكيبيديا العربية of the Lord Mayor of London before he arrives. This can do no harm since he is to be an honoured guest, but it would serve the function of seeing what reach Wiki has in those countries.

I say this only because many other topics seem to cause controversy in one way or another, so a description of his name, function etc in Arabic presumably along even briefer lines than the Anne Hidalgo article surely could not go amiss before Lord Mountevans arrives in the Middle East next week? RSVP! M Mabelina (talk) 08:03, 9 January 2016 (UTC)

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Cool! I had no idea, so thanks for letting me know. Jane023 (talk) 05:00, 14 June 2016 (UTC)

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