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Change log

Changes in the next version (0.8.3)

  • None

Changes in the current version (0.8.2)

  • Fixed speedy delete form resizing
  • Non-unified accounts can log in again
  • Interface is localizable

Changes in (0.8.1)

  • Added optional template param for CSD G12 in the speedy delete window
  • Fixed user info (warns and blocks) not updating, now updates when requested
  • Default templates can be removed from the template list
  • Option to move a page's talk page added to move form
  • Fixed graphical bug in Options form (shortcuts) with text box in wrong place
  • Underscores in log in name automatically change to spaces.
  • Message on huggle start up is configurable and can be disabled (per-user)
  • Ability to click and drag between two revisions on history display to show diff between them
  • User will now be alerted if the spam blacklist prevents an edit
  • Cancel all button added to the requests form
  • Queue builder and selector improved
  • Added "show changes" to edit form
  • Queues now save across sessions
  • Bug with new pages continuously reappearing is now fixed
  • Revision queue can now be shown on the right hand side
  • Displaying the log is now configurable
  • Keyboard shortcuts now work when browser is not focused
  • Password can now be remembered (disabled by default), username-remembering can now be disabled.
  • Download the newest version for you if you have an old version (auto-updating) now implemented
  • Start of 3RR detection and reporting
  • Stats form expended
  • Warns and warn summaries can now be set in user config
  • User contribs will be displayed properly
  • Database locks are now detected.
  • Shortcuts now work when browser loses focus
  • Exception after losing start up message now fixed
  • Sanity check to prevent warning self about deleted articles.
  • System.ArgumentOutOfRangeException at preload in config GUI fixed - r275
  • <noinclude> speedy tags in template: namespace - r278
  • MFD code fixed and updated r261,r262
  • NullReferenceException during custom-revert fixed - r257

Feedback

Error in huggle

I keep getting this message:

ArgumentOutOfRangeException: StartIndex cannot be less than zero. Parameter name: startIndex at System.String.InternalSubStringWithChecks(Int32 startIndex, Int32 length, Boolean fAlwaysCopy) at Huggle.Page.get_Owner() at Huggle.Queue.MatchesFilter(Edit Edit) at Huggle.Processing.ProcessNewEdit(Edit Edit) at Huggle.Irc.ProcessIrcEdit(Object EditObject)

Then I press continue and huggle goes back to normal. It's a bit annoying, so could someone tell me what's going on?--res2216firestar 23:05, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

I've been seeing this error as well, running 8.1. --JaGatalk 23:28, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
Ditto. Magog the Ogre (talk) 21:56, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
  • Ditto on 8.2 as well. It happens to me when i try and add custom edit summaries. It doesn't work and instead i have to rely on going advanced and the summaries are there saved across sessions. If i try and add it, it states it worked im my config. but when i open huggle again, its back to the default. Monster Under Your Bed (talk) 06:34, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

Feature request: diff showing net edits by most recent contributor

I don't think this has been asked for before, I dug through the archives and didn't see it. Anyways, popups has* a function that lets you see the net change from all of the edits the latest contributor has made to an article since the previous contributor. In other words, the diff shows what you'll be changing back if you hit the rollback button. I have found this not only makes it easier to spot an unworthy series of edits, it also helps prevent unwarranted reversions too. *Or had a function, it hasn't worked for me for the past few months now. —Elipongo (Talk contribs) 05:21, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Going to the user's first edit and then pressing "D" (assuming the user is also responsible for the last edit) should work. StaticGull  Talk  15:10, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
It's also possible to use this function by dragging the mouse to and from any edit. StaticGull  Talk  13:43, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
That only works if Huggle loaded all the edits, which on my machine anyways it doesn't seem to do very often. I usually have to page back through the page revisions until I hit a trusted user before I can do a comparison to the latest revision. It would be really nice if Huggle would do that either by default or with a single button click. It would also prevent confusion between similar looking IP addresses. —Elipongo (Talk contribs) 01:44, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
The edit loading problem can be solved by pressing "H", or by messing around in the configuration. StaticGull  Talk  11:56, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
Okay, I'll give that a shot, though I still sorely miss the way popups use to do it. Thanks for the help! —Elipongo (Talk contribs) 03:51, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
You're welcome :-). StaticGull  Talk  11:47, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Errors in diffs

Huggle sometimes adds a + in diffs, see User_talk:Ogioh#Ummm, User talk:76.89.138.132, User talk:64.231.13.63. Cenarium Talk 00:48, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

You mean in the diff viewer of huggle or the Wikipedia diff viewer? The Wikipedia diff-viewer has the +s to show an addition of text. Not sure if huggle's should though... Calvin 1998 (t·c) 03:42, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
I think he means that the URL for the diff of the reverted revision has a '+' in it. '+' in a percent-encoded string is interpreted as a space, and the URLs should all work correctly -- Gurch (talk) 10:24, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
In Firefox; the url works in the sense that I can see the diff, but the article whose the diff seems to be taken is a red link, Fighting+Foodons instead of Fighting Foodons: it shows [1]. The + functions as a space in the url, but not in the Wikipedia title: it's still a +. Note that this is new, it worked fine before. The error affects all diffs when the article name has a space in it. Cenarium Talk 13:47, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
Hmm, so it does. I don't remember it doing that when I tested it -- Gurch (talk) 15:53, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Issue with Huggle

This occurred for me a couple of weeks ago, so I don't know whether or not (due to huggle being broken?) I should still post it or not. (My computer went offline right before I could post this) I will in case I can still get help)

I really really want to give Huggle a try, but I seem to running into multiple obstacles when I try to get it going. The first issue I came across was in the installation of the .NET Framework. i knew I already had some version of .NET installed, but I figured it was probably an older version. Either way, it turns out I have .NET Framework 2.0 Service pack 1. When I try to install the .NET Framework 2.0, link provided on Huggle's page, upon installation i receive the following error: Setup cannot continue because this version of the .NET Framework is incompatible with a previously installed one. For more information, see http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/q312/5/00.asp

I went to this URL, and found this explanation: The .NET Framework 2.0 Service Pack 1 is a later version of the .NET Framework 2.0. The earlier version cannot be installed over the later version.

So, considering this, I figured it would be fine to proceed with Huggle. I downloaded and installed and ran the newest version, and I think it just wouldn't even run. I removed it, downloaded the legacy version. I installed it, and when I run the exe, I get to the login window, hit Login, and it crashes within a few seconds, at exactly the same place in the loading bar every time.

Is this likely due to the newer version of .NET, or is it likely because of some other unknown circumstance on my pc? I suppose the more basic question is: Does Huggle work with .NET Framework 2.0 Service Pack 1?

Thanks, looking forward to hearing back from you guys! Pip (talk) 09:45, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Yes, service packs contain fixes for previous releases and do not (usually) cause incompatibility; in general, such fixes can be considered to be the same version of the product. The requirement is listed there for the benefit of users who have no version of .NET (Windows 2000 users), or only version 1.x installed (Windows XP users who have not used another .NET 2.0 application before). You can assume it says ".NET version 2.0 or later"; the reason I didn't specify that is that .NET applications are built to run on a specific version and will do so even if there is a newer version present (the latest version is 3.5) -- Gurch (talk) 11:17, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
Great, thanks so much. I suppose it's some other weird issue manifested by my computer then. Dangit. Thanks for the reply! Pip (talk) 21:50, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
It's probably just the same problem as everyone else is having; see the orange bar at the top of the page -- Gurch (talk) 22:20, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Would that explain the incident where I nominated a page at AfD using Huggle, and another page ended up being nominated, with a bizarrely inapplicable rationale? -- Blanchardb -Me•MyEars•MyMouth- timed 18:38, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

But this occurred for me way before the orange bar at the top of the page appeared - Huggle won't even run... This happened on the 22 of Sept. Pip (Talk to me!) 23:10, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
Any suggested fixes?? ~Pip 20:29, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
Please try the latest version. ·Add§hore· Talk/Cont 15:51, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Tagging bug

Hi. Huggle is working otherwise fine for me, except for CSD tagging. The editor of the page gets a CSD notice, but Huggle doesn't actually add the tag to the page. Prince of Canada t | c 11:09, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Log out bug

hehe sorry to have to pop up with another bug report but since the last 2 times a log out from huggle I get this warning which skips the updating watch list.

here's the report

  NullReferenceException: Der Objektverweis wurde nicht auf eine Objektinstanz festgelegt.
  bei System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripControlHost.set_Text(String value)
  bei huggle.Requests.BrowserRequest.Done(Object ResultObject)


oh yeah almost forgot to mention the report is in German ;)Alexnia (T) @ 19:17, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Queue selections

I'm trying to have the Filtered Changes in the queue to only display the Article, User, User talk, Wikipedia and User namespaces. I went to the Options and I don't see a Queue tab, which I last saw in version 0.7.12. Do I have to manually edit my Huggle configuration page, or do I have to open up ver. 0.7.12 and fix the queue changes there? SchfiftyThree 23:06, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Nope, it's under "Queue" --> "Manage Queues". Then click on the "page title filters" tab and you'll get the list of namespaces. Cheers. Chamal Talk ± 02:59, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
And is there a save button there? I don't see one, and "close" does nothing but close the window. Calvin 1998 (t·c) 00:45, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
Well, I have this problem. When you close it, the changes are there until you exit huggle. When you log in again, it's back to the old settings. But I think this has been reported already by someone else. Chamal Talk ± 00:37, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Incorrect references to warning templates

Quite a few warning templates such as Template:Huggle/warn-1 have an embedded HTML comment such as <!-- Template:uw-huggle1 -->. I noticed these comments, but it took me a while to find out where these templates are really stored, since {{uw-huggle1}} is redirects to a warning template outside the scope of huggle. I clicked a few template links on Template:Huggle and they all had this problem. Maybe there is a good reason for it, but I would suggest that these HTML comments are corrected. Han-Kwang (t) 12:42, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Yes, there is a good reason. Various bots and scripts do not recognize a warning template as such unless it has a comment that starts with "Template:uw". If it was removed from the templates, they would not be recognized by these bots and scripts. This would result in situations whereby a Huggle user would leave, say, a level 3 warning, and then ClueBot would revert the same vandal and leave a level 1 warning, which is undesirable -- Gurch (talk) 21:05, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
That's all nice, but not a reason to make {{uw-huggle1}} redirect to a non-huggle warning template. Han-Kwang (t) 20:09, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
If the templates were stored on pages with a "uw-" prefix, people might actually try to use them, which would be a bad thing, since they do not work like the other templates -- Gurch (talk) 20:48, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
Then how about making {tl|uw-huggle1}} a noinclude'd explanation of your points above with a link to the huggle project? Han-Kwang (t) 08:18, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
I tried that, and then DerHexer wrote a script which tried to warn people using whichever warning series was previously used, so that script tried to use these templates when warning on top of another Huggle warning, so I had to redirect them to the real warning templates to stop the script screwing up -- Gurch (talk) 11:04, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Not incrementing vandalism reports

When reporting a user to AIV, it keeps adding the last one on as number 7 instead of incrementing to 8, 9, 10, and so on: example RainbowOfLight Talk 05:50, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Added to the google code bug tracker http://code.google.com/p/huggle/issues/detail?id=98&colspec=ID%20Type%20Status%20Priority%20Summary ·Add§hore· Talk/Cont 09:48, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Edit summary

I know its kind of petty, but could the (HG) spam not be removed from the edit summaries, as it doesn't really serve any purpose. Sunderland06 (talk) 19:07, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

It's up to people to discuss that here. ·Add§hore· Talk/Cont 19:15, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
I think it needs to stay. TW and VP appear in the edit summaries, right? Or did VP drop it? Regardless, I think it should stay. It should be apparent in edit histories that an automated tool is being used, and which one. لennavecia 13:57, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
Agree with Jennavecia. Isn't it good to 'advertise' so that more people join? What matters is that the reverting of vandalism will continue. Chamal talk work 14:38, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
There was a lengthy discussion regarding this here. The result of the discussion was to keep it. Dadude3320 17:01, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
I recall that I opposed the edit summary. It does, in fact, serve a purpose. It lets other users know which edits are automated and which are not. Particularly useful for RFA. Glacier Wolf 22:39, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
I'd say leave it in, it serves a purpose - to show which edits are automated. — neuro(talk) 18:38, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

0.8.2

OK, here it says "huggle version 0.8.2 now released". But on the download page it says "MediaWiki changes/bugs have broken the latest version of Huggle. USE AN OLDER VERSION. THANKS.". Does this mean that even though 0.8.2 is released, we can't use it yet? Is it best to stick to 0.7.12 for now? Chamal talk work 10:34, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

0.8.2 has been released. Feel free to use it :). I just forgot to update the download page :P ·Add§hore· Talk/Cont 10:40, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
Yay, 0.8.2. :-). StaticGull  Talk  13:30, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
It's working nicely! Time for vandals to pack up! Chamal talk work 14:35, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, it's great! LittleMountain5 review! 15:21, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
I actually have the new problem of having the download page blocked by the anti-whatever filter on my computer :/ - I'll have to fix that. Calvin 1998 (t·c) 18:19, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
So far so good! Well done :) — Possum (talk) 23:29, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
Works pretty good. Little slow though. Seems to lock up every now and then, only to free itself back up again. Although I always have this problem with resource intensive programs, such as IE 7, huggle 0.7.12 never had this problem. I could even run Windows Media Player 11 in the backround with 0.7.12. Under normal circumstances, WMP 11 would drastically slow down firefox if it was playing music. But with any version past that, I can't do it. It locks up everything. WMP 11 and Huggle 0.8.1/.2 do not mix. VandalismDestroyer | Talk to me 15:39, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
Bear in mind that .NET, and therefore Huggle, uses Internet Explorer's rendering engine to display diffs and other web pages, so if IE7 performs badly on certain pages, Huggle will have the same problem -- Gurch (talk) 18:36, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

Deletion reasons

Hi there! If I'd delete articles per Huggle on de:wp without adding a reason, the log would show the article's content (content was: … only contributer etc.). If there are some personal data, just a developer could remove it from the logs. Could you change the code please so that, if the Huggle deletion reason is empty, the (on Wikipedia) logged deletion reason will be empty, too? Thanks, —DerHexer (Talk) 10:59, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

I have added this issue to the google code bug tracker here. I hope this will be fixed soonish and thanks for the report. ·Add§hore· Talk/Cont 15:44, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Localization in 0.8.2

Thanks for releasing this version. Unfortunately Huggle is not using translation page, at least in Portuguese Wikipedia:Huggle/Localization/pt. English interface it's OK, but in portuguese I see [login-start], [main-system], [main-tip-revert], [main-user-talk] and things like these all over the place. Mosca (talk) 13:55, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Hi there. I have added this is the google code bug tracker. You can now keep track of the bug here. This is not just a bug for the PT wiki but all languages except for English. Thanks for the report. ·Add§hore· Talk/Cont 15:41, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
that's because the localization code isn't finished yet... -- Gurch (talk) 23:01, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Blocking.

Was the blocking function removed from huggle? I'm now reporting users with 4+ warnings to AIV, which equates to wasting another admin's time when I could have easily taken care of it... · AndonicO Engage. 03:50, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

It was disabled project-side because of the API/MediaWiki bug that made all blocks automatically have the "no-edit-talkpage" or whatever on, which is not the intention. Calvin 1998 (t·c) 04:06, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
Ah, I see... that wasn't an issue back when I was more active, I guess. · AndonicO Engage. 19:11, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Using it as an admin

Is there a special way to set it up for admins? I've tried adding admin:true to User:Trevor MacInnis/huggle.css, but it still wants to post the block requests to the WP:AIV page, and when I close the program it removes admin:true from my page, see this edit. - Trevor MacInnis (Contribs) 18:10, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

It's supposed to automatically detect if you are an admin :/ - but there is a known bug about configuration changes not working and all that – check back later for any progress. Calvin 1998 (t·c) 18:15, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
Thanks, I just checked tried using it again and now it seems to be working. - Trevor MacInnis (Contribs) 18:24, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
Blocking is disabled because it doesn't work properly. You should still be able to delete and protect pages -- Gurch (talk) 20:33, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Bug?

I got this error report twice after clicking the next edit button on the main toolbar. Is it a bug? Below is the error report:

EventType : clr20r3 P1 : huggle 8.2.exe P2 : 0.8.2.0 P3 : 48f9b1e9 P4 : huggle P5 : 0.8.2.0 P6:48f9ble9 P7 : cea P8 : 145 Thanks. leujohn (talk, contribs) 13:25, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

Advanced reverting

Revert this revision > Advanced... doesn't work. Calvin 1998 (t·c) 03:15, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

You mean the custom edit summary or the "revert only the selected revision" or the whole thing? Monster Under Your Bed (talk) 06:08, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
Custom edit summary. Calvin 1998 (t·c) 14:39, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
It hasn't been in previous versions, either, just to let you know. — neuro(talk) 23:37, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Messages

I found that he first time I opened Huggle when I turned my computer on, the messages when it first opens is not there. If I close Huggle and open it again, it works. Can someone tell me how to fix this? Thanks. leujohn (talk, contribs) 09:56, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

I've been getting the exact same thing on any version past 0.7.12. It's just a blank white space. Sometimes it works, but most of the time, it doesn't. VandalismDestroyer | Talk to me 15:34, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

Bug when setting queue to go to the right of the page (0.8.2)

ArgumentOutOfRangeException: startIndex cannot be larger than length of string.
Parameter name: startIndex
at System.String.InternalSubStringWithChecks(Int32 startIndex, Int32 length, Boolean fAlwaysCopy)
at Huggle.Main.SetMenuText()
at Huggle.Main.Configure()
at Huggle.Requests.WriteConfigRequest.Done()
at Huggle.Misc.CallbackInvoke(Object TargetObject)

Any ideas on this one? — neuro(talk) 18:45, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

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