September 16

Well, I tried everything I know to make the article "Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Magnagate and the Infinite Labyrinth", which I recently created, to display an italic title. Since the article has the {{infobox VG}} infobox, technically it should be italicized by itself, but it doesn't work. {{italic title}}, doesn't work either, even "{{DISPLAYTITLE:''Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Magnagate and the Infinite Labyrinth''}}" has no effect. Can anyone please tell me what is going on? Thanks, Cyan Gardevoir ^{(used EDIT!)} 00:50, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Someone has already fixed it and you were right about Infobox VG but did you read this part of the Infobox heading: "If this is required and the title is over 50 characters or contains text in parentheses that should also be italicized, add |italic title=force"? Dismas|^(talk) 01:40, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Here is the reason for the 50 character limit: {{italic title}} checks the title for a left parenthesis to avoid italicizing it and the text that follows it (cf. Pokémon (anime)). Unfortunately, the template depends on the {{str find}} metatemplate to do so, which cannot handle strings longer than 50 characters. Hopefully, in several months the Scribunto extension to MediaWiki will be deployed here, and this issue and others relating to the limitations of traditional metatemplates will become history. PleaseStand (talk) 01:52, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

For example, I would like to have "Today's Featured Picture" as the first item in the second column.

I am using the "modern" style.

Thanks in advance for any advice :)

Nivallah (talk) 04:03, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I don't believe so. The layout of the main page is determined by exactly like the layout of any page, in this case by the specific templates that generate each section, and I don't beleive that that is customizable on a per-user basis. Wikipedia:Main_Page_FAQ#How_are_templates_used_on_the_Main_Page.3F has a little bit of information on how this happens. --Jayron32 04:07, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your help. That answers my question.

Nivallah (talk) 05:39, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You could make your own version manually but it requires a little work. User:PrimeHunter/sandbox2 was copied from Main Page with Today's Featured Picture moved up by just moving the whole code without changing the width. If the real main page makes design changes then they will not be reflected in my copy. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:12, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Wikipedia people,

I edited the Repas de bébé site.

I cleaned up the site (I am French Canadian).

As much as I tried, I was unable to edit the title itself.

How do you edit the title?

I read you. I am not supposed to put my e-mail here.

But how will I know?

Living dangerously, here it is:

>removed>

Regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.80.241.201 (talk) 05:57, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'm afraid you have to come back here to check for your answer. This is for your own protection.
To answer your question, you change the title of a page by moving it. You should see "Move this page" in the links at the bottom. Rojomoke (talk) 06:14, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Except you need to have an autoconfirmed account to see/use that link. - Purplewowies (talk) 06:15, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Otherwise you can ask for a move at Wikipedia:Requested moves. Rojomoke (talk) 06:18, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Previous question from September 14

Dear Sir/Madam

Aritcle on Chandrika Balan was created sometime back. I wish to know how I can send her picture to be placed on the right hand side box as is shown of other writers. I have her photo. Kindly let me know how I can send it to you or how I can affix it myself.

I had asked the question before but the reply was not clear to me as the reply was to get license etc. and talking about images. I am making it clear that I want the photo of Chandrika Balan to be placed alongside her article.

Your help and cooperation is greatly appreciated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Panank (talk • contribs) 15:39, 14 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

We MUST address the license issue, before you can upload the photo. To start with:

• Did you take the photograph yourself?
• If you did not, do you know the photographer, and are you able to contact them directly?

thanks, --Robert Keiden (talk) 15:52, 14 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Current question

Dear Robert Keiden,

The photograph was taken by Mr. C.G.Balan, Chandrika's husband and sent to me when I asked her for one to be uploaded. I don't think it requires any license as it is private and personal. I can provide my husband's email ID. If needed, you can contact him yourself and confirm. On the other hand, if you want him to contact you and confirm, just let me know.

Many thanks for your prompt response.

Regards

Chandrika Balan — Preceding unsigned comment added by Panank (talk • contribs)

Practically every photo someone takes today is copyrighted, whether it has a copyright notice on it or not. Wikipedia and those who redistribute its content do not wish to infringe copyright, so we require the copyright holder (generally the person who took the photo) to grant a license giving us (and everyone else) permission to modify and/or distribute the photo for both commercial and noncommercial purposes. For articles about living people, exceptions to this rule are unlikely.

One such acceptable license is the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 license we use for Wikipedia's text. Have the photographer/copyright holder fill out Wikipedia:Declaration of consent for all enquiries, attach a copy of the photo (and the filename you will upload it under), and send both to permissions-commons@wikimedia.org. Then you can upload the photo to Wikimedia Commons, putting {{OTRS pending}} in the "Permission" box. A Wikimedia volunteer will verify the permission and add the relevant information to the image's description page.

Alternatively, the photographer/copyright holder can create his own account and upload the photo himself. If he uploads the photo himself, and the photograph has not been previously published, sending the permission email might not be necessary. He can refer to Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials for more information. PleaseStand (talk) 15:04, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

On this page, what does "d. o. 995" mean? Him having died in 995 ("d. 995") would fit in with our article, which places him in the 10th century, and "d. c. 995" would make sense too, but I'm not familiar with the meaning of "o." in this case. Possibly I've misunderstood the whole thing and it's not a date of death at all. Can anyone shed some light? Thanks – Arms & Hearts (talk) 14:21, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Arms & hearts! The helpdesk is about how to use or edit Wikipedia. The correct place to ask your question is at the WP:Reference desk/Miscellaneous. With friendly regards, Lova Falk talk 14:39, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Do you think? I suppose it's a borderline case. I guess I should've mentioned that I'm hoping to use the information in an article, namely 10th century in literature. (And that I try to avoid the reference desk like the plague.) – Arms & Hearts (talk) 15:10, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Judging from the "Islandsk skjald" (Icelandic bard) preceding it, it seems to be either Danish or Norwegian, and then "d.o." would indeed mean "død omkring", which corresponds nicely with your initial interpretation (literally "died around").--Saddhiyama (talk) 15:21, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, brilliant, thanks. – Arms & Hearts (talk) 15:23, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

My name was misappropriated by someone who tried to start a wiki page about my poetry. Now, when you search my name on google... all the drama of trying to get it removed on WIKIPEDIA appears. I would like it all removed as soon as possible, or I will have to consider other options. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Exitblur (talk • contribs) 14:36, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The article has been deleted (this is the relevant extract from the deletion log: 20:36, June 19, 2012 The Bushranger (talk | contribs) deleted page Robert S. Prattico (A7: Article about a real person, which does not indicate the importance or significance of the subject). There isn't much else we can do.--ukexpat (talk) 15:15, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Exitblur, given that it was you that started the page [1], I suspect that you might like to reword that. As for what 'other options' you are considering, I've no idea, but you might well be advised to read WP:NLT. I'll also point out that we have no control over what Google does with your name.

Note: for the curious, see also [2] etc. AndyTheGrump (talk) 15:21, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The first Google result for me was this. Apparently someone claiming not to be the subject and the article creator (but the same account as the poster above) requesting the same thing. My best advice to Mr Exitblur is that, if you don't want your name posted all over Wikipedia, would be to not put it there in the first place. I'm afraid most references, if not all, are probably going to be here as long as Wikipedia exists. Яehevkor ✉ 15:28, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

With many people clamouring FOR a Wikipedia article, it is not encouraging that when one is written and then deleted, the author (or maybe the subject) of the article then complains that it is insulting that they can still find a trace of the deletion. If they had taken the time to improve the article, I'm sure they wouldn't now be here complaining. Astronaut (talk) 16:04, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Now, when I use Google to search for "Robert S. Prattico", this page's archive for June 22nd appears near the top of the list. I predict that by Christmas, the archive for September 16th will appear there instead. Maproom (talk) 16:36, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I hope you realize that every time you do this, it improves the odds that somebody will find this discussion (which you've started a couple of times before) in their search engine results? --Orange Mike | Talk 16:37, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A candidate of arbitration committee fi.wikipedia.org has blocked 91 154 53 180 for 24-hours [3] since he had been asked to explain his relation to another member of the society, who keeps blocking a vast number of the users. [4] Could it be possible to deliver this message to fi.wikipedia.org as an inquiry to unlock 91.154.53.180 and possibly and also to a before mentioned arbitration committee candidate - or just unlock 91.154.53.180 in http://fi.wikipedia.org . Thank you in advance! Flatearthfinn (talk) 15:36, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• Also It would be kind to deliver a query of the reason on behalf of the same name, why there articles has been emptied partly, without explanation.
  • http://fi.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Suomen_kunnat&diff=prev&oldid=12120660
  • http://fi.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hair&diff=prev&oldid=12120661
  • http://fi.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rovaniemi&diff=prev&oldid=12120664
  • http://fi.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Perussuomalaisten_Uudenmaan_piiri&diff=prev&oldid=12120666
  • http://fi.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Siuntio&diff=prev&oldid=12120667
  • http://fi.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pakaa&diff=prev&oldid=12120672

fi.wikipedia.org does not give any explanation. Asking leads into an immediate ban. Flatearthfinn (talk) 15:45, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This is the help desk for the English-language Wikipedia. We have no control on what goes on at fi.wikipedia.org. AndyTheGrump (talk) 16:02, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Where are the "rules" for article assessment? Particularly, what makes an article qualify for A-class rather than start-class, and what makes an article qualify for top-importance rather than low-importance? I am suspicious of the motivations for this edit, considering the editor's self confessed desire to make F.R.Khan "a household name" (see the edit summary for this edit). Thanks. Astronaut (talk) 16:19, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Assessment - Purplewowies (talk) 16:45, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Assessment is typically done by editors affiliated with the relevant WikiProject. In this case, the relevant projects are "WP:WikiProject_Bangladesh" "WP:WikiProject_Illinois" "WP:WikiProject_Chicago" "WP:WikiProject_Civil_engineering" . However, the editor does not appear to be a member of any of these projects, and this looks like a random edit instead of an actual assessment. I think it should be safe to revert.--Robert Keiden (talk) 01:02, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. I have concerns about a user who is incorrectly uploading images to Commons and adding them here, usually with the wrong rationale or none at all. However, I've no idea where to take this. Can anyone help? Paul MacDermott (talk) 17:39, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Who is the user? What are the images? --Orange Mike | Talk 17:46, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Think he is referring to the one he removed from Amanda Holden's article . File:Amanda Holden3.jpg A probable copyvio requiring 'speedy'--Aspro (talk) 17:54, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed. The user is ThomasB4412 (talk · contribs). Three he appears to have uploaded are File:Amanda Holden3.jpg, File:Amanda Holden Lying Down.jpg and File:Jessica Fox3.jpg. Amanda Holden3 suggests it is free use, though I have my doubts. Paul MacDermott (talk) 17:56, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Also, File:Samantha Womack.jpg was uploaded on 1 September, and is also in the deletion pile, so I'll remove that from her page too. Paul MacDermott (talk) 18:02, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I have a question on who Founded the Hawaii Auduban Society and the Elepaio. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.17.221.151 (talk) 18:42, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You need to ask your question at WP:REFDESK rather than here. This is for matters relating to how to edit Wikipedia. Paul MacDermott (talk) 18:43, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I served as a 2nd Lt. in the 136th Armored Ordnance Battalion of the 14th Armored Division. I have a history of the Division written by a Captain in one of the combat units and published about a year after the end of the war. It is not referenced in the Wikipedia article and I believe contains additional valuable information. Also I have a good memory of many events in the division combat history. For example, we lost 26 tanks immediately upon attacking the town of Lohr. In particular I commanded an advanced tank recovery unit at the battle of Hatten/Rittershofen and was responsible for the recovery of most of the 150 tanks as cited. Three of my men at this time received bronze stars for their brave actions in recovering disabled tanks under fire and saving the lives of the crews. I think I could contribute some information about this battle. I also went into the town of Dachau with the 14th Armored Division units and saw part of the concentration camp at that time. Here I think an additional line or two of text might be worth adding.

It seems to me that a few details, observed by people who were actually there, would make the piece more interesting. For example, we tried to break through the Siegfried Line three times, succeeding on the third try. The first attempt we were stopped cold by the tremendous firepower coming from the many pillboxes and bunkers. The second attack we went as far as we could but then pulled back and the line was bombed by over 1000 American bombers. This was totally ineffective. What it did was tear apart the fake houses that had been built over many bunkers, but the 2 meter thick reinforced concrete was still there. The third try some of the Engineers fastened 50 lb packs of TNT on their backs and crawled over the open ground before the line at night and with some smoke protection. With the TNT they opened avenues through the dragon's teeth so that tanks could rapidly get to the bunkers, if they could escape being destroyed by the fire from the bunkers. Then the bunkers were inactivated by our infantry putting grenades through the firing slots by hand. Needless to say it was not a fun exercise, but it worked.

I would like to be able to communicate with the principal author of the piece on the 14th Armored Division, as I think I could add some information that would improve the article. I do not believe that I should just do some rewriting without such consultation. I realize that the principal author, if he was a member of the 14th Armored Division, may no longer be living, as I am almost 90 and was young during the war. If some one knows of the principal author and that he is no longer around, I would appreciate being informed. Norman Beecher — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.93.152.214 (talk) 21:33, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

There is no one principal editor of 14th Armored Division (United States). User:Tanker72 appears to have contributed the most, but that person has been asked in the talk page not to use copyrighted material by "Jim Lankford National Historian and Website Editor 14th Armored Division Association". You can check out other contributors by clicking on the history tab.

As for your personal remembrances, see WP:PRIMARY. Basically, unless they've been published, they're not considered really appropriate for the article. Clarityfiend (talk) 23:57, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

But you could try to get your memories published in a reliable source and, if you are successful, the information could be added to the article.— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 21:16, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

September 17

The first External Link listed for the article Solomon's_Key is the Solomon's Key instruction manual. My avast! antivirus software reported blocking a trojan when I clicked the link. I didn't want to delete the link myself in case it is a false alarm. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.168.218.15 (talk) 02:47, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

There is some JavaScript code in the external page that has been obfuscated by the Dean Edwards Packer and then again using another common obfuscation method. This sort of obfuscation, commonly used on browser exploit sites, can cause antivirus alerts. Without closer examination, I don't know for sure whether the code is malicious or not, yet I removed the link you mentioned and one other as violations of our copyright policy (see WP:COPYLINK). I also removed a third link as going against criterion 11 of our WP:ELNO guideline, which advises that as Wikipedians we should only link to notable fansites. PleaseStand (talk) 13:34, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Battle of Antietam (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

On September 17th, 1862, 23,000 Americans were killed, wounded or missing at the Battle of Antietam. This was the bloodiest day in American history, so I think it should be mentioned on the Anniversary section on the Main Page. Let us honor those who died for the American cause. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.6.36.115 (talk) 02:57, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

As the 150th anniversary, I'd tend to agree with you, although that should have been suggested long enough ago that the article could have been checked thoroughly before hand. While no anniversary is mentioned every year, it was last listed in 2007, its 145th anniversary. Dru of Id (talk) 03:15, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hello 108.6.36.115! Your suggestion is a good one, unfortunately it is a little too late for it to be approved to make the main page today. If you are interested in helping pick future events for Wikipedia's On This Day segment on the main page, go to Wikipedia:Selected anniversaries/September and select the "talk" link under the date you wish to make a suggestion for (other months can also be navigated from that page). Wikipedia:Selected anniversaries has criteria for how OTD items are selected. --Jayron32 04:28, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

While the battle is obviously notable and probably should be a "selected anniversary", it is not the job of Wikipedia to "honor those who died for the American cause" or any other cause for that matter.--ukexpat (talk) 14:40, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hello,

why is the public domain file [5] not visible here in my sandbox? Regards.--Kürbis (✔) 12:17, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Because that file appears to be located on the Russian Wikipedia, rather than on en-wiki or at Commons. AFAIK, inter-wiki tags don't work on files, though I'm open to being corrected if someone knows better. I'd suggest asking the Russian user who uploaded it (Участник:Евгений Мухтаров) to move it to Commons so that it can be used here. Yunshui 雲‍水 12:24, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Some editors are discussing whether or not it is appropriate to use a descriptor before a linked article.

The Southern Poverty Law Center says.....

vs.

The civil rights organization Southern Poverty Law Center says.....

Is there a MOS guideline on when such descriptors should be used?

Thanks  little green rosetta(talk)
central scrutinizer  14:43, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It must depend on the context. As a first stab, I would say that "a descriptor should be used if it will make the article easier to understand for a significant proportion of its readers". Maproom (talk) 16:10, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I think is is pretty easy in this case and little dispute about the aims of the SPLC; but as a general rule I think we should be careful about using descriptors. Remember one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. Astronaut (talk) 16:52, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It is very very annoying while reading an article...the monument ad. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.201.218.93 (talk) 16:14, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

If you create an account you can disable those banner notices.--ukexpat (talk) 16:42, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi,

We would like to "turn off" a page temporarily for a client. See the revisions on this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camus_Cognac

Thanks in advance for your answers.

Edouard — Preceding unsigned comment added by Athomedia77 (talk • contribs) 16:18, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It should actually be deleted as a blatant violation of the rule against promotion. Roger (talk) 16:25, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Other then tagging it for speedy deletion WP:CSD, the only other thing you could do is add __NOINDEX__ to the page so that it wont be indexed. There is no way to 'unpublish' an article short of deletion of some sort. Monty₈₄₅ 16:31, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I've already tagged it for Speedy deletion as Spam (G11). Roger (talk) 16:33, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Someone else has reverted it back to a pre-spam state. Roger (talk) 16:37, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

And before you make any more edits on behalf of any of your clients, please read WP:COI, WP:BESTCOI and WP:BFAQ.--ukexpat (talk) 16:39, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Athomedia est une agence conseil et de déploiement de stratégies sur les médias sociaux. They have been blocked. --Orange Mike | Talk 18:30, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hello,

I need help undoing a move and re-direct that I did today from my sandbox. It wiped out a previous contribution of mine on Francis M. Forster and replaced it with Karl Lennert. I did not intend to do that. Thanks for any help you can give. mrwick1 --Mrwick1 (talk) 16:26, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This has been fixed, by User:GB fan. Maproom (talk) 17:35, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I think I figured it out. You probably went to User:Mrwick1/sandbox but since that is a redirect to Karl Lennert it took you there. You then edited that article and changed it to and article about Francis M. Forster, subsequently moving it to that name. I have since moved it back to Lennert and restored that article. Then I created the Forster article and pointed to the history of Lennert to provide attribution for the edits you made. When working on articles you need to watch the title to make sure you are working where you mean to be. GB fan 17:49, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You should unmerge the history of the Karl Lennert article from that of Francis M. Forster. Ruslik_Zero 18:23, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I did that, figured out how after a wrong start, but I think I got everything done right now. GB fan 19:46, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I've been working on this page forever. Can someone please take a minute to look at it to tell me if I did it right this time? Thank you!

Robert Zausner (talk) 16:59, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It still looks far too promotional in tone to me, like something you would read on the firm's website.--ukexpat (talk) 17:14, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The article is User:Robert_Zausner/Thomas_R._Kline. I agree with ukexpat – to be accepted as an article, it needs a lot of hype deleted. (And a picture which actually lets us see his face would be an improvement.) Maproom (talk) 17:26, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you so much for your feedback. I will make some changes and then try again. I uploaded a photo and apparently there was a photo with the same name and it keeps bringing that one up. I can access it through the commons but when I paste it with the file name it brings up another photo. I will not let me upload the same photo with a different name either. Any suggestions?

Robert Zausner (talk) 17:33, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

About the picture – what I currently see is an image on Wikipedia Commons (not English Wikipedia), named "Silhouette-red-tall-high res.jpg", with the description "Image of Tom Kline, Trial As Theatre, 2009", uploaded by you on September 12th. I do not think that it would let you upload a picture with the same name as one that already existed. You have also uploaded, on September 14th, an image named "Kline.jpg". This would be a much more appropriate picture, except that it appears (at least to me) with strong grey horizontal lines. I suspect that these are because you used a CMYK jpeg instead of an RBG jpeg – Wikipedia cannot handle the CMYK colour encoding. Maproom (talk) 17:48, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I have edited the picture on Wikipedia Commons, converting CMYK to RGB, so as to remove the horizontal bands. However I find that when I try to use it in the article I get a picture of a tall building among autumn trees. I do not know how to fix this. Choosing a name as short as "Kline" is likely to result in a clash, but this should have been detected by the Commons upload software. Maproom (talk) 17:55, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The "Kline.jpg" that you uploaded is in Commons, the autumnal building "Kline.jpg" is in English Wikipedia. That is why you did not get a warning when you uploaded it. I am sure there is an easy way to specify that you want the Commons version in the article, but I do not know what it is. Maproom (talk) 18:05, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I renamed Commons' file. Ruslik_Zero 18:18, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I got the picture up. Thank you for renaming it for me! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Robert Zausner (talk • contribs) 20:42, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Please see this note from my boss:

We can certainly tone down the bio. The idea was never to “promote” Tom Kline but merely to impress the folks at Wikipedia that he really deserves to be on their site on his own merits. He really is the best-known and, by many accounts, the best trial lawyer in Philadelphia, a city known for its lawyering. Just this year he’s been on hundreds of TV news shows such as ABC World News Tonight and Nightline and Good Morning America – showing the news media recognizes him widely -- and he’s won tons of huge verdicts in a 30-year career. Since Superlawyers – and I admit it’s a largely commercial enterprise -- started rating lawyers, he has been their No. 1 in Pennsylvania every year for nine straight years. Best Lawyers says he the best med-mal lawyer in Philly and among the best in America. He’s past president of the Inner Circle of Advocates, which allows only 100 of the best trial lawyers as members from the entire country. He’s on the Drexel Board of Trustees. And he does some things that other lawyers don’t – like his Trial As Theatre performances at the Wilma Theater. For the folks at Wikipedia, I was a reporter at The Philadelphia Inquirer before I left to write a book about one of Tom Kline’s (and partner Shanin Specter’s) cases. The book was published several years ago and is titled “Two Boys.” See Amazon -- http://www.amazon.com/Boys-Divided-Fortune-United-Tragedy/dp/1933822155/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1347907422&sr=8-2&keywords=robert+zausner That said, it’s good that the folks at Wikipedia have recognized the submission of Tom Kline’s bio – and we appreciate the critique. Now we’ll work on shortening the bio and toning down some of the superlatives so it is suitable for Wikipedia’s pages.

Robert Zausner (talk) 20:49, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I don't want to be rude, but who is "we"? If you are the Robert Zausner who wrote that book, then you are currently the "web writer" for Kline & Specter, which makes Tom Kline your boss. If so, then you have a massive conflict of interest and should not be writing a Wikipedia article about him. If I'm wrong about this I apologise unreservedly, but please see WP:BESTCOI. - Karenjc 21:16, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Promotional language doesn't impress us. Sources that prove notability without fluffing up the subject impress us. - Purplewowies (talk) 22:25, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

How exactly would you distinguish between "impress the folks ... that he really deserves" and "promote"? I can't see a difference. --ColinFine (talk) 23:29, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

September 18

Is there a way for a show the currently "viewing" user in Wikipedia using something special or a magic word? Sort of like Special:MyPage or Special:MyTalk, except all it does is show the username (or if anonymous, the IP address). For example, I could place something like {{CurrentlyViewingUser}} and it would automatically update it to whoever is viewing this page (in this case, me or you). This could allow users to make boxes in their user/talk pages that say something like "Welcome to my page, (Viewing User's Name)". Is this possible? User talk:76.10.241.86/Sign 06:40, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

You can substitute it when saving a page with {{subst:currentuser}}, but as noted here, there isn't a good way to do it with wiki markup, because it would break caching. There a couple of MediaWiki extensions that do it [6] [7], but they're not enabled here. You could write some JavaScript… —Kerfuffler  harass
stalk  07:02, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think it can be done with JavaScript either, because the software does not allow your JavaScript to run when I view your page. That would open up a big security risk. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:06, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I've actually seen JavaScript spam on WP that did run in my browser. I was most unhappy about it. But it's probably not supposed to work. —Kerfuffler  harass
stalk  07:08, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you both. User talk:76.10.241.86/Sign 07:32, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

Hi,

The page 2008–2012_Irish_financial_crisis has lost several sections from the bottom starting from 'See Also' and 'References'. These were there on 8th September version. The page was edited on 03:28 18th September (the most recent edit), but the edits do not show these sections have been deleted, however viewing the current page clearly shows these sections are missing and displays 'Cite error: There are <ref> tags on this page, but the references will not show without a {{Reflist}} template or a <references /> tag'.

Please help explain what has happened.

I've fixed the error. A </ref> tag was missing, so that the software thought the rest of the article was part of the footnote. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:42, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Many thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by John a s (talk • contribs) 11:04, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I have a personal page which uses a Collapsible List, as follows ~~

{{Collapsible list|bullets=yes|expand=yes
|title=CDC Disease Info lookup
|framestyle=background-color:#EEF
|{{CDCDiseaseInfo|typhoid_fever}}
|{{CDCDiseaseInfo|shigellosis}}
|{{CDCDiseaseInfo|ecoli_o157h7}}
|{{CDCDiseaseInfo|/////}} (A-Z Index)
}}

except of course the parens are curly brackets.
Before editing this page today, it was perfectly fine.
Now, the [hide] link is stepping on my title, and so is the first bulleted item.
What the heck is going on?
— Mwr0 (talk) 10:00, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Possibly worth noting that even the examples at Template:Collapsible list are exhibiting the problem. —Kerfuffler  harass
stalk  10:11, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I started a discussion at Template talk:Collapsible list#Borked?. I took the liberty of reformatting the example so we can see the markup and rendering. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 10:19, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

 Fixed A problem with the HTML5 switchover; now fixed. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 16:30, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yay and Thank You! I have never reported a problem on the web that got fixed so fast. I did EDIT and SAVE and my page is fine now. — Mwr0 (talk) 21:35, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Just describe what is the exact meaning of trolling here in one sentence. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.201.218.116 (talk) 10:54, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

"In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as a forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion." - from Troll (Internet). Trolling is what a troll does. You can read our article for more information. --Colapeninsula (talk) 11:44, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hello,

I was wondering if the Wikipedia featured lists was available in a format that can be downloaded other than PDF and in one spot. Any help would be appreciated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.174.199.97 (talk) 12:01, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there, 110! First, browse to the featured list. In the sidebar (to the left), you should see a section called "Print/export." Right now, your only options are to Create a book (which could be an eBook, for reading on your iPad/tablet/etc), PDF (as you said), or "Printable version." If there's a specific type of format you'd like to save the page as, you could theoretically save the printable version and them convert it to any format you'd like (using your computer), but I'd need to know what format you're trying to convert to first. Happy editing, Theopolisme 01:23, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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<font size="12">(f arg1 arg2 arg3)</font>

   Prose size (including all HTML code): 231 kB
   References (including all HTML code): 61 kB
   Wiki text: 249 kB
   Prose size (text only): 102 kB (17604 words) "readable prose size"
   References (text only): 4488 B