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This starts two discussion threads; 1) Firstly, on the lack of reliable supporting citations for the complete list of nominees for the "Best Chase Scene" category; 2) Secondly on whether the "Scalped Alive by Motorboat" scene was a nominee for the "Holy Sh!t Scene of the Year" award.
This edit just adds two 'post notes' confirming the current stance of; 1) Including the "Best Chase Scene" category, with its list of nominations; 2) Excluding the "Piranha 3D" scene from the list of nominations for the "Holy Sh!t Scene of the Year" award.
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Can anyone locate a copy of the original broadcast, or find a reliable news source that reports on the "Best Chase Scene" category? [[User:SMargan|SMargan]] ([[User talk:SMargan|talk]]) 05:37, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
Can anyone locate a copy of the original broadcast, or find a reliable news source that reports on the "Best Chase Scene" category? [[User:SMargan|SMargan]] ([[User talk:SMargan|talk]]) 05:37, 9 November 2023 (UTC)

: By way of a 'post note', the TVSA reference has information on the "Best Chase Scene" award category, as well as a full list of nominations and winners.<ref name="winners_tvsa_2011">{{Cite web|title=The Scream Awards|first=|last=|language=en-us|date=|work=[[TVSA]] (www.tvsa.co.za)|url=https://archive.today/20230814012937/https://www.tvsa.co.za/shows/viewshowseasons.aspx?showId=1647&season=6|access-date=14 August 2023|archive-url=https://www.tvsa.co.za/shows/viewshowseasons.aspx?showId=1647&season=6|archive-date=14 August 2023|url-status=live|df=dmy}}</ref> This arguably further justifies this "Best Chase Scene" award category's inclusion. [[User:SMargan|SMargan]] ([[User talk:SMargan|talk]]) 06:48, 9 November 2023 (UTC)


== "[[Piranha 3D]]" - "Holy Sh!t Scene of the Year" award ==
== "[[Piranha 3D]]" - "Holy Sh!t Scene of the Year" award ==


IMDb<ref name="nominees_imdb_recent(2023)/> includes the "Scalped Alive by Motorboat" scene from "[[Piranha 3D]]" as a nominee for the "Holy Sh!t Scene of the Year" award. However, the archived voting portal from the official Spike TV web form does not contain that nomination.
IMDb<ref name="nominees_imdb_recent(2023)/> includes the "Scalped Alive by Motorboat" scene from "[[Piranha 3D]]" as a nominee for the "Holy Sh!t Scene of the Year" award. However, the archived voting portal from the official Spike TV web form does not contain that nomination as an entry in the awards results table.


Until confirming whether this additional nomination was included via watching the broadcast, this nominee should not be included. However, considering this official portal's omission of the "Best Chase Scene", the inclusion of this nomination needs to be investigated further. Can anyone locate a copy of the original broadcast, or find a reliable news source that reports on the "Scalped Alive by Motorboat" scene nomination's inclusion in the "Holy Sh!t Scene of the Year" award during the "[[2011 Scream Awards]]"? [[User:SMargan|SMargan]] ([[User talk:SMargan|talk]]) 05:37, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
Until confirming whether this additional nomination was included via watching the broadcast, this nominee should not be included. However, considering this official portal's omission of the "Best Chase Scene", the inclusion of this nomination needs to be investigated further. Can anyone locate a copy of the original broadcast, or find a reliable news source that reports on the "Scalped Alive by Motorboat" scene nomination's inclusion in the "Holy Sh!t Scene of the Year" award during the "[[2011 Scream Awards]]"? [[User:SMargan|SMargan]] ([[User talk:SMargan|talk]]) 05:37, 9 November 2023 (UTC)

: By way of a 'post note', the TVSA reference also backs-up the view that the scene from "[[Piranha 3D]]" was not one of the nominations in the "Holy Sh!t Scene of the Year" award.<ref name="winners_tvsa_2011"/> This arguably further justifies this nomination's exclusion from the nominations list. [[User:SMargan|SMargan]] ([[User talk:SMargan|talk]]) 06:48, 9 November 2023 (UTC)

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Best Chase Scene

One of the 'inline citations', based on an archive URL taken on 23 September 2011 from the official Spike TV awards voting platform, has all the possible categories to vote for, but does not have the category of "Best Chase Scene". In spite of this, a number of the news reports at the time report that the "Chase Through London" scene, from "Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides", won this "Best Chase Scene" category. The only possible reason for this that I can think, is that the "Best Chase Scene" category, was a category that was added later, i.e. after the initial archive URL was taken. This creates a problem, as it means it probably was a category. However, because none of these news reports gives the details of the other nominations, i.e. only the winning nominee, then the full list of nominees for the "Best Chase Scene" is not verifiable. There is a list from IMDb[1], that does list the "Best Chase Scene" nominees, however, that source has often been flagged as being unreliable. The only way to confirm that the list is accurate, or not, would be to view the actual broadcast for the "2011 Scream Awards". However, I have not been able to find a copy of the broadcast.

The list of the nominees for the "Best Chase Scene" currently on this "2011 Scream Awards" Wikipedia page, and on the IMBd site, is:-

Can anyone locate a copy of the original broadcast, or find a reliable news source that reports on the "Best Chase Scene" category? SMargan (talk) 05:37, 9 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

By way of a 'post note', the TVSA reference has information on the "Best Chase Scene" award category, as well as a full list of nominations and winners.[4] This arguably further justifies this "Best Chase Scene" award category's inclusion. SMargan (talk) 06:48, 9 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

"Piranha 3D" - "Holy Sh!t Scene of the Year" award

IMDb[1] includes the "Scalped Alive by Motorboat" scene from "Piranha 3D" as a nominee for the "Holy Sh!t Scene of the Year" award. However, the archived voting portal from the official Spike TV web form does not contain that nomination as an entry in the awards results table.

Until confirming whether this additional nomination was included via watching the broadcast, this nominee should not be included. However, considering this official portal's omission of the "Best Chase Scene", the inclusion of this nomination needs to be investigated further. Can anyone locate a copy of the original broadcast, or find a reliable news source that reports on the "Scalped Alive by Motorboat" scene nomination's inclusion in the "Holy Sh!t Scene of the Year" award during the "2011 Scream Awards"? SMargan (talk) 05:37, 9 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

By way of a 'post note', the TVSA reference also backs-up the view that the scene from "Piranha 3D" was not one of the nominations in the "Holy Sh!t Scene of the Year" award.[4] This arguably further justifies this nomination's exclusion from the nominations list. SMargan (talk) 06:48, 9 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ a b c "Scream Awards - 2011 Awards". IMDb (www.imdb.com). Archived from the original on 12 December 2022. Retrieved 9 November 2023.
  2. ^ Ford, Rebecca (16 October 2011). "Scream Awards Winners: 'Harry Potter' Takes Home Top Honor, Most Awards". Hollywood Reporter (www.hollywoodreporter.com). Archived from the original on 9 November 2023. Retrieved 9 November 2023.
  3. ^ Kay, Janice (17 October 2011). "2011 Spike TV Scream Award Winners". Science Fiction (www.sciencefiction.com). Archived from the original on 11 August 2023. Retrieved 9 November 2023.
  4. ^ a b "The Scream Awards". TVSA (www.tvsa.co.za). Archived from the original on 14 August 2023. Retrieved 14 August 2023.
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