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Generic categories must be expressed in the plural form. Here in the Category:Murders that already exists. DenghiùComm (talk) 22:23, 29 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

(copied from User talk:Cathy Richards)
Hi Cathy Richards. What you have done here is wrong ! Consider that in Commons the categories must be expressed in the plural form. I will be greatful if you may revert what you have done. Thank you very much. Best regards, --DenghiùComm (talk) 08:41, 29 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Murder is a perfectly good uncountable noun, much like, say, architecture. There's absolutely no need to change it to refer to the individual acts instead of the overarching idea.--Prosfilaes (talk) 19:58, 29 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

wikt:Murder is just like Category:Architecture; it's an uncountable noun describing an abstract idea not subject to pluralization.--Prosfilaes (talk) 22:48, 29 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

IMO there needs consistency: in the subcats of this category; and in the rules of categorizations in Commons. --DenghiùComm (talk) 22:52, 29 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Have you understood the words that I have written? I can't tell, because you don't seem to be responding to my statements.--Prosfilaes (talk) 00:36, 30 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

To be fair, "murder" isn't uncountable per se, just like "architecture" isn't. There are two meanings, the countable act of murder, as in Category:Ratcliff Highway murders and the crime of murder as a general concept, which is uncountable. Category:Murder is clearly about the latter, that's why singular is correct, in my opinion. --rimshot^talk 06:29, 30 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

•  Neutral: The word "murder" is a bit unusual, as both "murder" (uncountable) and "murders" (plural) — and "murdering" (gerund) — can all refer to murder as an idea; but specific incidents can only be called "a murder" (countable singular) or "murders" (plural). I can see why User:DenghiùComm would be confused, because we seem to have put both the concept of murder, and then specific incidents, both in this category; and a category with specific examples usually have plural countable-noun categories. On the other hand, most of those have only a countable noun anyway, and so there is no conceptual uncountable noun in English to think about. It might be useful to have a category for murder(s) as a concept, then a subcategory for specific murders; but that doesn't solve the noun problem, because it could still be the same with or without a subcategory. --Closeapple (talk) 13:54, 1 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: Stale. --Hedwig in Washington ^(mail?) 00:37, 2 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]